News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

TwilightZone

TwilightZone

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I have thought about another thing Iger could impliment. He really needs to take notes on the smaller successes of Harry Potter world (and also Super Nintendo World, but Wizarding World is the longer term success as of now). Not that it's IP based, but it's an fully immersive kinetic land, with multitudes of rides. It helps that it also stretches across two parks (as of right now), which helps ticket sales. Now of course, having a disney land that stretches two parks, would probably be very bad since all the parks have their own unique themes, but maybe if they could figure out a solid IP that can fit two parks (for example Wall E in BOTH tomorrowland and EPCOT), then it could work.

Stuff like Toy Story Land and Galaxy's Edge is just sad in comparison. I feel like they saw how well carsland was and tried to replicate that, but the difference there is Carsland was made with the smaller scale of DCA in mind it feels like. And it has a lot more to do on the surface than the three rides it presents.
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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TwilightZone said:
I have thought about another thing Iger could impliment. He really needs to take notes on the smaller successes of Harry Potter world (and also Super Nintendo World, but Wizarding World is the longer term success as of now). Not that it's IP based, but it's an fully immersive kinetic land, with multitudes of rides. It helps that it also stretches across two parks (as of right now), which helps ticket sales. Now of course, having a disney land that stretches two parks, would probably be very bad since all the parks have their own unique themes, but maybe if they could figure out a solid IP that can fit two parks (for example Wall E in BOTH tomorrowland and EPCOT), then it could work.

Stuff like Toy Story Land and Galaxy's Edge is just sad in comparison. I feel like they saw how well carsland was and tried to replicate that, but the difference there is Carsland was made with the smaller scale of DCA in mind it feels like. And it has a lot more to do on the surface than the three rides it presents.
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Honestly? I'm so sick of "immersive." Just give me a good, fun ride.
 
CastAStone

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
DCBaker said:
Two previous candidates to succeed Mr. Iger, Thomas O. Staggs and Kevin Mayer, left Disney and are now running a media start-up. A person close to Disney’s board had reached out to them this year when Mr. Chapek’s contract renewal was under consideration. According to two people familiar with the matter, this person posed a hypothetical question: Would one or both be interested in returning to run Disney?
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WOW.
 
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James Alucobond

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DCBaker said:
Wall Street cheered Mr. Iger’s return. Disney gained $12 billion in value overnight, as shares jumped 10 percent on Monday morning. Disney executives, while shocked by the turn of events, were mostly thrilled to see him. (“Daddy’s back!” one male senior executive at the company texted on Sunday.) Other Disney employees wondered whether a Sunday night email from Mr. Iger announcing his return was a prank, one employee said, and texted their co-workers just to be sure it wasn’t a hoax. The Hollywood Reporter, a trade news publication, ran the headline “Bob Iger Returns as Hero in Waiting to Save a Battered Disney.”
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Britney Spears Thinking GIF by MOODMAN

I really need to know who sent that text.
 
el_super

el_super

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jpeden said:
Well then, I think with Daniel’s quick removal we can see that he is here to unwind the changes made by Chapek including how he wanted to restructure TWDC.
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The restructuring was mostly outlined by Iger. Chapek was just following his plan. It's great that Iger may be able to admit failure and change course, but throwing Chapek under the bus isn't the most honest way to convey that.

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'Extremely awkward': Bob Chapek and Bob Iger had a falling out, they rarely talk â and the rift looms over Disney's future

Former Disney CEO Bob Iger chose Bob Chapek to succeed him, but their relationship soured quickly, and the pressure is on Chapek to show he's right for Disney.
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Conceptually, Chapek's idea actually isn't all that different from what Iger had begun to put in place with the organization of Disney+. In early 2018, Iger met with Robert Kyncl, chief business officer at Google's YouTube, according to people familiar with the meeting.

Kyncl told Iger if he wanted Disney to start trading at Netflix-like multiples — which were, at the time, orders of magnitude higher than Disney's — Iger needed to run operations like a technology company.

If Disney wanted investors to see its burgeoning streaming service as the growth engine in a digital-first world, Iger realized he needed to centralize power around Disney+. According to two people familiar with the meeting, Iger urgently asked then-Disney head of strategy Kevin Mayer to return from the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas so Iger could show him a new organizational structure, which he drew on a whiteboard in front of Mayer.

Power struggles followed. Mayer and Disney TV studio head Peter Rice fought about who had the authority to decide which shows aired on Disney+. Rice's principal issue was that content executives could no longer have direct conversations with Hollywood talent and tell them whether Disney would make their show or not.

Iger had to solve the disputes by making control decisions on the fly. Mayer won the main argument — he would have greenlight power for Disney+. Mayer left Disney in 2020 to become TikTok's CEO, months after Iger chose Chapek as CEO.

Mayer and Rice declined to comment for this story.

While Chapek didn't consult Iger about his October 2020 reorganization, he did cite many of the same principles that Kyncl and Iger discussed in 2018.

Chapek decided to reverse Iger's decision to have greenlighting authority rest with the head of the streaming services. He gave that power back to content heads, who have more money than ever before to make programming — Disney plans to spend a record $33 billion on content for fiscal 2022. That's largely pleased Disney's content leaders, who can now tell creators directly whether Disney will work with them, according to people familiar with the matter.
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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Joel said:
I get this and agree to an extent. I also think its weird when people feel the need to constantly defend a movie(/show/attraction/whatever)'s honor, though.
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I think it might come down to how these discussions are often framed in terms of emphatic statements like "X was a dumpster fire" rather than "I didn't like X." It often goes on to "X was a failure" which is hard for any of us outside the company to know in the streaming era. I understand statements of personal opinions as fact getting on people's nerves.
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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TwilightZone said:
Now of course, having a disney land that stretches two parks, would probably be very bad since all the parks have their own unique themes, but maybe if they could figure out a solid IP that can fit two parks (for example Wall E in BOTH tomorrowland and EPCOT), then it could work.
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How about Cars Land at DHS and Cars 2 Land at World Showcase?

;)
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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CaptainAmerica said:
He'd be 80 by then. That's way too old to run an organization this size.

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Like I said, the President of the United States is 80 and both leading candidates for the next election would serve well into their 80's. So, for what that's worth...

CaptainAmerica said:
They made that. It's called Slinky Dog Dash and people crap all over it.
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People crap all over anything Disney does, moreso here than anywhere else. Some of it is justified, some isn't. Look, immersive can be good. Pandora, Wizarding World, etc. I've got no objection to. Nor with the concept of Galaxy's Edge, although I have issues with the execution. But not everything needs to be immersive. Good, fun, standalone rides -- even if based on IP -- can be just as entertaining.
 
DonniePeverley

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Captain Neo said:
The problem is the main Disney studios there movies have been bad and the Disney+ content including disenchanted and hocos Pocus 2 was atrocious like real low effort stuff that actually hurt the brands. Was better off not doing that stuff and leaving the streaming content to marvel and lucas
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Utter nonsense.

Hocus Pocus 2, Disenchanted were low cost content, that does what it says in the tin. It can still be awful, but that's nothing to do with budget - most likely the creativity behind it was poor. Disney have been doing this for years producing direct to video sequels for some of it's major IP's - it's a cheap non risk production. Hopefully you get some gems.

You also have the other side - where you need the big spectacle and need to throw money at the productions due to the special effects, actors, etc - then because of the budget and risk, you have to throw further money behind it to promote it.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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Trauma said:
Are you just making stuff up?

I don’t have time to refute all of this but Turning Red alone was a $160 million loss.
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CaptainAmerica said:
Between the three of them, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red generated exactly zero new Disney+ subscribers.
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EPCOT-O.G. said:
$175M budget. Do you think it created or retained enough D+ subscriptions to make it worth that?
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Y'all see the big "losses" that Soul, Luca, and Turning Red had? Do you know why they had, on paper, huge losses? Just look at the CinemaScore. There ain't none. Those three movies did not get a wide theatrical release. Only in those countries in which movie theaters were open did they appear on the big screen. For all intents and purposes, they were released directly to Disney+.

Nielsen wasn't giving out top ten numbers during the time of Soul, but they were for Luca and Turning Red. Luca appeared in the Top Ten movies over 23 weeks for a total of 10 Billion minutes watched. That's why it was the most watched streaming movie in 2021.

Turning Red made the Top Ten 16 times for 8.5 Billion minutes streamed. Both with critics and audiences, they received high ratings.

So, when y'all trot out that "it lost money" and "it was bad" and "it didn't help D+".... y'all are just crazy.
 

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