GhostHost1000
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He definitely did. I wonder now if he’ll blame where they are on Chapek. His plan worked perfectlyHe ran Like a billion dollar coward too…I’ll remind.
He definitely did. I wonder now if he’ll blame where they are on Chapek. His plan worked perfectlyHe ran Like a billion dollar coward too…I’ll remind.
It's at 50 when I go to lunch. Now it's 60. I'm on 45 right now. . .Forty five pages? C'mon people, I have Thanksgiving prep to do and I'll never catch up!This thread was on page 1 when I went to bed last night!!
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While the rest of the world also saw a 30% drop too... righhhhhtThe writing was on the wall with the stock price dropping as it did You started the year near 160 and a few days ago it was close to 85... If Chapek didn't see the writing on the wall he was more of an idiot than I thought.
...and Im saying a great deal of Chapek's bad, was really Iger's bad.Totally disagree. I didn’t say Iger was the end all, be all. What I’m saying is that anyone over Chapek is a huge upgrade, because that’s how bad Chapek was. Just my opinion.
It isn't immediately true, but it's closer than you think. Look at the second week drops the MCU movies are starting to get consistently - Black Widow 67.8% Multiverse of Madness 67% Eternals 62.3% Thor Love and Thunder 68% Black Panther 2 63%. The staying power isn't there anymore and I disagree that Black Panter 2 will break a billion - most likely come close to $750 or $800 million. A lot of money, yes, but with DC retooling their studio, Marvel is going to have some actual competition.6 years ago they were pulling in box office numbers of 500 million, 1.1 billion, 600 million, 800 million, etc... They didnt hit the 2 billion numbers until the culmination of a cinematic event people were waiting their entire lives to see.
1 year ago Spiderman hit 1.9 billion, 6 months ago Dr. Strange was at 950 million, 4 months ago Thor hit 750 million. I expect Black Panther to hit 1 billion. The narrative that the MCU is dying is far from true.
Because anyone who thinks this just started on Friday afternoon is the silliest of gooses.
Chadwick Boseman was meant to be the centerpiece and you can't blame them for that part, at least.
It's a serviceable movie. Nothing as captivating as the first one. Far too long.Overall I hear the reviews were good. Not everyone can see it opening weekend. I'm seeing it tomorrow with others.
But the most important thing to understand about Iger’s return has less to do with Disney’s particulars than with the media industry in general: When Iger left Disney, everyone in media was trying to become Netflix — fast-growing, all-in on streaming, and willing to burn big piles of money to make it work — because that’s what Wall Street wanted them to become.
Now Wall Street has changed its mind. Which is why Disney stock — along with that of most big media companies, including Netflix — has plummeted. A share of Disney was worth nearly $200 in the spring of 2021; now it goes for half of that, and that’s after investors gave it a quick bump this morning after Iger’s return was announced.
“It’s a very different landscape than even 18 months ago,” an executive at one of Disney’s competitors texted to me. “Hopefully he can figure out the model. No one has yet.”
The new, theoretical model: Figure out how to create a streaming service people will pay for, but without burning a gazillion dollars — over the last nine months, Disney has lost more than $2.5 billion on streaming, and it lost another $1 billion a year earlier — while continuing to prop up existing businesses, like cable TV, that make a lot of money but are in permanent decline.
Welcome back, Bob! No pressure or anything!While Iger is rightly praised for three acquisitions he made that transformed the company — Pixar, Lucasfilm, and Marvel, all snapped up within a few years of each other — that’s no guarantee of future performance.
It’s quite reasonable, for instance, to argue that Iger dramatically overpaid for the Fox assets he acquired, which have yet to yield much benefit beyond removing a competitor. And Iger came very, very close to buying both Vice and Twitter — two moves that would have guaranteed enormous headaches and quite possibly real losses.
The board’s outreach to Iger and discussion to replace Chapek came after the board married internal complaints about Chapek’s leadership with concerns following Disney’s most recent quarterly earnings report, said the people, who asked not to be named because the discussions were private. One of the executives to express a lack of confidence in Chapek was Christine McCarthy, Disney’s chief financial officer, two of the people said.
McCarthy was Iger’s CFO before he departed as CEO in 2020. She has held the role since 2015. She has an established relationship with the board given her longevity in the position, the people said.
You are correct Sir. Iger did serious damage to the parks and Chapek simply kept going in that direction and then some. I don't see any major changes at the parks as a result of this.Remember folks. We have simply gone from worse back to bad.
Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell....and Im saying a great deal of Chapek's bad, was really Iger's bad.
So while I agree that anything over Chapek, the fact of the matter is that bringing Iger back is very much a doubling down on alot of the things that were ushered in on Chapek's watch. It's just going to be candy coated now.
Industrial average dropped about 8%... so not sure what world you are looking at. Were you chasing Metaverse or something?While the rest of the world also saw a 30% drop too... righhhhht
Maybe no changes... and maybe Iger will have reflected on what he did last time around and change some things. Being out of the role of CEO for a while gives him the opportunity to do things differently without admitting he was wrong the first time. Few CEOs would ever admit they were wrong while they were still CEOs sailing the same direction.You are correct Sir. Iger did serious damage to the parks and Chapek simply kept going in that direction and then some. I don't see any major changes at the parks as a result of this.
Of that I'm sure. Boseman, sadly, isn't in it. As for length, I believe it. Andor is also praised for being a great series. But I think you could have told the story in half the episodes.It's a serviceable movie. Nothing as captivating as the first one. Far too long.
This thread is moving really quickly but I have some honest questions to those that are happy about this..
Are you shareholder?
Do you think you're going to get back what was lost under Chapek?
Do you think the parks will see any benefit to this change?
What exactly did Iger do that was amazing?
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