News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

DKampy

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I initially read it as eight days at Disneyland. Thankfully, that’s not the case.

I’m going to jump in and suggest that you combine Universal Studios with another activity in the Los Angeles area. The park is small and can be done in just a few hours, especially if you get there at opening. Maybe see a show at the Hollywood Bowl? I’m a native of Los Angeles and can help you come up with some ideas. If you want, feel free to send me a PM.
Speaking of the Hollywood bowl… it has always been a dream of mine to see John Williams… but I believe he is retiring oh well… I am getting ahead of myself that is not till October 2024… our big trip this year is Hawaii
 

Californian Elitist

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Speaking of the Hollywood bowl… it has always been a dream of mine to see John Williams… but I believe he is retiring oh well… I am getting ahead of myself that is not till October 2024… our big trip this year is Hawaii
I couldn’t see Williams this year, but I’ve seen him at the Bowl many times. It’s a very, and I hate to use this word, but magical experience. He celebrated his 90th birthday this year, but he still seems to be going. You never know.

I’ve never been to Hawaii, but I really want to go. I hope you have fun!
 

pdude81

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I initially read it as eight days at Disneyland. Thankfully, that’s not the case.

I’m going to jump in and suggest that you combine Universal Studios with another activity in the Los Angeles area. The park is small and can be done in just a few hours, especially if you get there at opening. Maybe see a show at the Hollywood Bowl? I’m a native of Los Angeles and can help you come up with some ideas. If you want, feel free to send me a PM.
It depends on the hours when you go and crowd levels of course (Universal Hollywood). I wasn't able to catch some of the shows I wanted to in order to make sure we got on all the rides we wanted, and the park was mostly empty. I did a weekday in early Nov though. Hours were tight
 

pdude81

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We are going for 8 days… with 2 days planned for Disneyland… 1 day planned for DCA and are Anniversary is in October we are going to check out Ophir Boogie bash one night… we are also going to Universal Studios… I would like to do the famous tram tour…with 2 days to check out other Southern California sites since I have never been
OBB is awesome but tickets can be really hard to get. I was in the queue for hours to get this in 2021. Just an FYI that you should prepare to do battle.
 

DKampy

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I couldn’t see Williams this year, but I’ve seen him at the Bowl many times. It’s a very, and I hate to use this word, but magical experience. He celebrated his 90th birthday this year, but he still seems to be going. You never know.

I’ve never been to Hawaii, but I really want to go. I hope you have fun!
Yeah looking forward to… my parents are taking the family… from an inheritence
 

GhostHost1000

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Wonder if new ol Bob knew Disney Parks just released a video of Paris Hilton going undercover shopping at Disneyland and loving all the lame merch they would never wear or buy

So brilliantly out of touch it’s sad
 

Californian Elitist

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It depends on the hours when you go and crowd levels of course (Universal Hollywood). I wasn't able to catch some of the shows I wanted to in order to make sure we got on all the rides we wanted, and the park was mostly empty. I did a weekday in early Nov though. Hours were tight
Even with crowds, it’s possible to complete the entire park in less than an entire day.
 

SteveAZee

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I say this a lot, but it remains a shocking truth. Magic Kingdom today has less dining capacity than it did 30 years ago. Less! And it’s something that generates revenue!
I'm curious as to how you're measuring this. Some places have gone, some places have been added. Is this for table service, quick service, or both?
 

lazyboy97o

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I'm curious as to how you're measuring this. Some places have gone, some places have been added. Is this for table service, quick service, or both?
Instantaneous and hourly dining capacity as I explained…
Those venues reduced seating and focused on being more premium to deal with declining visitation. That’s not what occurred at the Magic Kingdom where visitation increased. 1994 was a really bad year for Disney, but in the past 30 years with increasing visitation Disney still has not fully replaced the capacity lost by closing the Adventureland Veranda* and then also shuttered other venues or waffled with them being seasonal (Tortuga Tavern and Tomorrowland Terrace).

*I am aware of Skipper’s Canteen which occupies part of the old Adventureland Veranda space with the rest now Club 33. On top of being smaller, table service restaurants generally allocate more square footage per person than a quick service restaurant so you have fewer tables and much longer turnover. This means that in the same size area a table service concept would have about 90% of the instantaneous capacity of a quick service, but even using the same number of seats table service has ½ - ⅓ the hourly capacity of quick service. Capacity in a theme park is all about hourly capacity, so that’s a big difference!
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Daughter's band is performing at the Rose Bowl and, as a WDW nerd, figured I should actually go to Disneyland at some point. Figured this would be a nice trip, as I havent been to the World in a few years. The amount of stress with park reservations, nickle and diming and services that just dont exist anymore already made me cut back from six days, to four days and now I am down to three days in the parks.
Its been a nightmare of wondering if Im just wasting my money on "feeling the love again", while knowing full well that the experience is not going to be close to my pre-pandemic expectations.
…enjoy watching the worst 10-2 team in football history…my alma 🦁
 

Inspired Figment

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Just thought I’d point something out I pointed out in another thread… you guys notice how Iger treats Mickey Mouse? Anyone watch that new documentary? Ya know, the one that paints Iger as the “savior” once again.. conveniently leaving out HUGE parts of Mickey’s history to benefit a BS narrative of him becoming a “soulless mascot” thanks to prior management. Despite the fact that ‘he’ is the guy that contributed to that shortly after he became CEO. Preschooler fodder Mickey Mouse Clubhouse strictly pushed for a decade or more since ‘06 (also conveniently left out I should mention..) while great past efforts that appealed to all ages, that had humor & personality like Mickey Mouse Works / House of Mouse and ‘most’ (not all, but most) of the 90s/early early 2000s-pre Iger (works conveniently spearheaded & closely involved with Roy Disney Jr. I should mention) have been ‘intentionally’ buried and refuse to have a proper release on Disney Plus due to this aswell. Then they greenlight/push a Mickey that feels more like a gross, mean spirited parody of past works headed by a guy that seemingly loathes & mocks the character masquerading as a “return to roots” while sabotaging/abandoning everything else made prior that felt genuine with real heart, humor, and personality that appealed to all. Epic Mickey/more shorts like Mickey in Get a Horse, etc included.. ohh yeah. That is ‘not’ a coincidence ladies & gentleman. It all started with a Mouse.. and the Mouse prominently displays this problem for all to see under both Iger & Chapek.
 

el_super

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Instantaneous and hourly dining capacity as I explained…

Yeah but you really haven't posted any of the numbers supporting this. What was the hourly capacity of Adventureland Terrace versus Skipper Canteen? What's the capacity of Be Our Guest and Gaston's Tavern? How many new dining options have been added? What about vending carts and snack stands... have they added more? How has the trends between buying snacks (like cupcakes) put downward pressure on demand for table services and QSR at MK? What about how menu options impact restaurant capacity? What about park hopping availability and the rise of resort dining in the last 30 years?

For what it's worth, I always found booking options at MK (Skipper Canteen and Liberty Tree Tavern) to be fairly easy and straight forward. The only problem I ever has was getting dinner at Be Our Guest.
 

el_super

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Anyway I really dropped by to post this:


“Iger gets a lot of praise as an executive, a lot of it well deserved,” noted an agency captain of the Disney vet, who returned on November 20 to the CEO job he handed to Bob Chapek less than two years ago. “But one of his greatest accomplishments may be sidestepping his missteps. The billions in debt that came with the Fox purchase, going all in on streaming, hemorrhaging TV and ESPN viewership, and the succession fiascos alone would have killed any other CEO.”​
[...]​
A debt that became hobbling during the pandemic when revenue streams for Disney (like everyone else in the industry) dried up. It was thanks to CFO McCarthy that the company was able to manage the load and raise cash over those bleak months.​
[...]​
There’s always also a chance Iger could make a move for Candle Media and bring co-CEOs Kevin Mayer, who was the Mouse House’s strategic planning head, and Tom Staggs back to Burbank to be on the Disney chief contenders shortlist.​
[...]​
“Not only do you feel he hears you, but that he will both protect you and your vision,” a tentpole scribe said of the CEO. That deft touch developed the powerhouse silos that are Pixar, Marvel and Star Wars within the Disney empire and grew the theme parks in China and elsewhere.​
[...]​
“He lives and breathes Disney, he connects its success and impact to himself, and that will always drive him,” a studio insider succinctly states.​
[...]​
If Iger can repeat and follow up on just some of his past success, it is very possible the CEO can achieve exactly what the board hoped he would by reinstating him last month. And then the question will be this: if Iger truly is hard pressed in two years to find a successor more capable than he, rather than risk being bored in retirement and preside over another possible Game of Thrones exercise that will lead more of his lieutenants to head for the exits if they don’t get the crown, why not stay awhile?​
That could end up being a very nice early Christmas present for all concerned.​

 

lazyboy97o

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Yeah but you really haven't posted any of the numbers supporting this. What was the hourly capacity of Adventureland Terrace versus Skipper Canteen? What's the capacity of Be Our Guest and Gaston's Tavern? How many new dining options have been added? What about vending carts and snack stands... have they added more? How has the trends between buying snacks (like cupcakes) put downward pressure on demand for table services and QSR at MK? What about how menu options impact restaurant capacity? What about park hopping availability and the rise of resort dining in the last 30 years?

For what it's worth, I always found booking options at MK (Skipper Canteen and Liberty Tree Tavern) to be fairly easy and straight forward. The only problem I ever has was getting dinner at Be Our Guest.
I don’t need to use the exact numbers because I provided the spatial relationship. Skipper’s Canteen is physically smaller than Adventureland Veranda. It’s not hard to figure out that Be Our Guest and Skipper Canteen are not 2x - 3x the physical size of the Adventureland Veranda and Tomorrowland Terrace combined.
 

_caleb

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Just thought I’d point something out I pointed out in another thread… you guys notice how Iger treats Mickey Mouse? Anyone watch that new documentary? Ya know, the one that paints Iger as the “savior” once again.. conveniently leaving out HUGE parts of Mickey’s history to benefit a BS narrative of him becoming a “soulless mascot” thanks to prior management. Despite the fact that ‘he’ is the guy that contributed to that shortly after he became CEO. Preschooler fodder Mickey Mouse Clubhouse strictly pushed for a decade or more since ‘06 (also conveniently left out I should mention..) while great past efforts that appealed to all ages, that had humor & personality like Mickey Mouse Works / House of Mouse and ‘most’ (not all, but most) of the 90s/early early 2000s-pre Iger (works conveniently spearheaded & closely involved with Roy Disney Jr. I should mention) have been ‘intentionally’ buried and refuse to have a proper release on Disney Plus due to this aswell. Then they greenlight/push a Mickey that feels more like a gross, mean spirited parody of past works headed by a guy that seemingly loathes & mocks the character masquerading as a “return to roots” while sabotaging/abandoning everything else made prior that felt genuine with real heart, humor, and personality that appealed to all. Epic Mickey/more shorts like Mickey in Get a Horse, etc included.. ohh yeah. That is ‘not’ a coincidence ladies & gentleman. It all started with a Mouse.. and the Mouse prominently displays this problem for all to see under both Iger & Chapek.
I think the Rudish design/shorts are done in the spirit of old Mickey. I do see the difference between how he's treated now vs. how he was used for a long while there, but I don't see it as an Iger conspiracy.

I see people here post quite a bit about how Disney has lost the earnestness that used to characterize so much of what they do. I see it, too. But I think the turn to more self-aware (and maybe cynical/sarcastic) storytelling is sort of a generational thing. And I think market research shows that people aren't really buying "heartfelt" from Disney like they used to.
 

Inspired Figment

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I think the Rudish design/shorts are done in the spirit of old Mickey. I do see the difference between how he's treated now vs. how he was used for a long while there, but I don't see it as an Iger conspiracy.

I see people here post quite a bit about how Disney has lost the earnestness that used to characterize so much of what they do. I see it, too. But I think the turn to more self-aware (and maybe cynical/sarcastic) storytelling is sort of a generational thing. And I think market research shows that people aren't really buying "heartfelt" from Disney like they used to.
Ask yourself this question, who’s the one who set this whole sarcastic/cynical tone to begin with?? The higher ups that intentionally jab at the good qualities of their works that don’t specifically benefit them & them alone… that’s who. They’re the ones setting the standard, not everyone else, despite what they want you to think.
 

Inspired Figment

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Why anyone actually in charge would genuinely wanna cynically mock the legacy let alone blandify and take all the genuine personality & heart out of what made this company so popular is beyond me.. but I think ‘that’ specifically speaks volumes
 
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Inspired Figment

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If they think ‘that’ is what makes a great mascot… it makes their treatment of Figment for instance all the more understandable now.. a mean spirited/cynical piece that paints Figment as a nuisance that farts in your face within a lousy film IP themed ride (rather than a pure, childlike catalyst to a ride tastefully showcasing the creative process & the realms/mediums that best showcase that process & it’s abilities)
Truth be told though, that cynical mindset is demented, wrong, & gross and the company should have MUCH higher standards than that.
 
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