News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

TP2000

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Seeing as he’s been a lifelong Democrat.. I see it being moreso fake than any chance of it being legit. But it wouldn’t surprise me to see Bob leveraging his Disney/Fox reign for his political ambitions in Government, certainly. That’s been his goal this entire time.

Iger wanted Diane Feinstein's Senate seat, but Governor Gavin Newsom publicly declared that not an option for Bob Iger.

So he's back at square one, and Willow apparently wanted him out of the house more.... Hello, Burbank, I'm back! :rolleyes:
 

TP2000

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I feel like no matter how many times this fundamental truth is stated…you’ll still get a steady stream of:

“Maybe they can’t tier the prebooked fast passes and dump the genie?…Value 2, moderate 3, deluxe 5???” Posted in la la land responses

It’s a MATH problem!!! You can’t give out cookies when you have less than the party goers want to eat

Exactly. I find it weird that so many Disney parks fans don't know their history of Disney parks.

Many fans have no idea that Disneyland has almost twice as many rides as Magic Kingdom Park, and that there actually used to be more rides in both parks that existed in the past that were closed and never replaced.

The people who think the answer is fiddling with Genie+ tiers or Early Entry options or park hopping tickets are clueless. It's just a simple math problem, not a technology and transportation logistics problem.
 

Tha Realest

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I say this a lot, but it remains a shocking truth. Magic Kingdom today has less dining capacity than it did 30 years ago. Less! And it’s something that generates revenue!
It’s kind of a trend across the board. Football stadiums have less capacity now than before (likely eaten up by luxury boxes and the like) movie theaters don’t have as many seats, but the seats they do are bigger so they can charge an upcharge. I think it’s a realization that at some point they reach saturation in terms of pure numbers, but rather seek to maximize how much they can get per guests instead.
 

Jrb1979

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I feel like no matter how many times this fundamental truth is stated…you’ll still get a steady stream of:

“Maybe they can’t tier the prebooked fast passes and dump the genie?…Value 2, moderate 3, deluxe 5???” Posted in la la land responses

It’s a MATH problem!!! You can’t give out cookies when you have less than the party goers want to eat
TBH Genie+ should have been limited. Giving it everyone doesn't work
 

lazyboy97o

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It’s kind of a trend across the board. Football stadiums have less capacity now than before (likely eaten up by luxury boxes and the like) movie theaters don’t have as many seats, but the seats they do are bigger so they can charge an upcharge. I think it’s a realization that at some point they reach saturation in terms of pure numbers, but rather seek to maximize how much they can get per guests instead.
Those venues reduced seating and focused on being more premium to deal with declining visitation. That’s not what occurred at the Magic Kingdom where visitation increased. 1994 was a really bad year for Disney, but in the past 30 years with increasing visitation Disney still has not fully replaced the capacity lost by closing the Adventureland Veranda* and then also shuttered other venues or waffled with them being seasonal (Tortuga Tavern and Tomorrowland Terrace).

*I am aware of Skipper’s Canteen which occupies part of the old Adventureland Veranda space with the rest now Club 33. On top of being smaller, table service restaurants generally allocate more square footage per person than a quick service restaurant so you have fewer tables and much longer turnover. This means that in the same size area a table service concept would have about 90% of the instantaneous capacity of a quick service, but even using the same number of seats table service has ½ - ⅓ the hourly capacity of quick service. Capacity in a theme park is all about hourly capacity, so that’s a big difference!
 

TP2000

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The people who think the answer is fiddling with Genie+ tiers or Early Entry options or park hopping tickets are clueless. It's just a simple math problem, not a technology and transportation logistics problem.

When I typed that I was referring to Parks fans, many on this site, who think that's the answer to the problem of park overcrowding.

But it just hit me that there are a lot of clueless Parks executives who also think that's the answer to park overcrowding.

That is the really scary part. And why the American parks are such a mess now. :mad:
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
TBH Genie+ should have been limited. Giving it everyone doesn't work
It’s not the market or the dynamics of cedar point.
Fastpass worked because it was dictated by numbers in real time each day…

They didn’t add enough ride capacity as the crowds rose for that to work…so the last two “updates” don’t work. The whole point is crowd distribution and they don’t have the space to distribute.

It’s really not that hard.
 
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Jrb1979

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It’s not the market or the dynamics of cedar point.
Fastpass worked because it was dictated by numbers in real time each day…

They didn’t add enough ride capacity as the crowds rose for that to work…so the last two “updates” don’t work. The whole point is crowd distribution and they don’t have the space to distribute.

It’s really not that hard.
I get it seniors and littles don't want to wait in long lines and there is more to do then riding rides. My counter to that is Universal is similar to Disney in market and dynamics and they do just fine limiting their Express Pass.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I get it seniors and littles don't want to wait in long lines and there is more to do then riding rides. My counter to that is Universal is similar to Disney in market and dynamics and they do just fine limiting their Express Pass.
But it’s not the same dynamic…universal was built with “thrills” in mind and known to have high end things that weren’t for everyone since day 1…so the expectations are distinctly different.

The problem is there really is a difference between Disney parks and really everyone else…
…which means them mishandling their capacity to do upsells and limit overhead is disastrous and it will get way worse until they get to it.

Many people you should trust have shouted this for years and I’m not talking about me.
 

DKampy

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Daughter's band is performing at the Rose Bowl and, as a WDW nerd, figured I should actually go to Disneyland at some point. Figured this would be a nice trip, as I havent been to the World in a few years. The amount of stress with park reservations, nickle and diming and services that just dont exist anymore already made me cut back from six days, to four days and now I am down to three days in the parks.
Its been a nightmare of wondering if Im just wasting my money on "feeling the love again", while knowing full well that the experience is not going to be close to my pre-pandemic expectations.
My wife and I are planning a Disneyland trip for our 20th anniversary in 2024.., I am quite looking forward to it…as a regular WDW traveler…I am quite looking forward to it… as it seems in may be more relaxing and less stressful
 

pdude81

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My wife and I are planning a Disneyland trip for our 20th anniversary in 2024.., I am quite looking forward to it…as a regular WDW traveler…I am quite looking forward to it… as it seems in may be more relaxing and less stressful
Go straight to the 5 day hoppers if you want to relax there. It's a lot to do.
 

DKampy

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@DKampy I’m going to counter this suggestion and say go for three days and save the other two days for another Southern California activity, assuming you’re even going for that long.
We are going for 8 days… with 2 days planned for Disneyland… 1 day planned for DCA and are Anniversary is in October we are going to check out Ophir Boogie bash one night… we are also going to Universal Studios… I would like to do the famous tram tour…with 2 days to check out other Southern California sites since I have never been
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Bob Iger sent an email to ME! “A Holiday Message from Bob Iger”,
I feel so special! 🤣
Bobby C. Would never do this. 🤣

You laugh but it’s good business, cost them basically nothing and will bring a smile to many Disney fans faces.

Even those that will laugh at it will still start thinking about the Disney parks, and thinking about the Disney parks leads to many booking vacations at the Disney parks.

I get a Christmas card from my dentist every year and it’ll get me wondering if I need to book a cleaning, I get a card from my realtor and it keeps her name fresh in my mind for when I move… smart business.
 

Californian Elitist

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We are going for 8 days… with 2 days planned for Disneyland… 1 day planned for DCA and are Anniversary is in October we are going to check out Ophir Boogie bash one night… we are also going to Universal Studios… I would like to do the famous tram tour…with 2 days to check out other Southern California sites since I have never been
I initially read it as eight days at Disneyland. Thankfully, that’s not the case.

I’m going to jump in and suggest that you combine Universal Studios with another activity in the Los Angeles area. The park is small and can be done in just a few hours, especially if you get there at opening. Maybe see a show at the Hollywood Bowl? I’m a native of Los Angeles and can help you come up with some ideas. If you want, feel free to send me a PM.
 

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