News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

_caleb

Well-Known Member
We have to work on the context…

Any decision with measurable finances is ceo and board and it stops there…full stop.
So you’re biggest revenue chunk is close trolled from the board room. The work is done by others…but not the decisions.

Iger stayed and wrestled with chappo for all of 2020 (after he quit like coward)…and then haggled more as the maker till they end of 2021…

So Chapek’s actually unfettered condrol was 6-9 months really at best.

Did is get suck? Oh yeah…

But the gloss on this is that the “problems” are really back to Bob. The meat of them - at least.
There’s a recent story (spin) about how Iger didn’t agree with Chapek on pandemic layoffs. Iger, pulled rank as CotB, and overruled Chapek.

But this should not be taken as “Iger was still in full control.” There’s a lot more to it (specifically, Iger needing to at least appear to support Chapek) and the difference between high-level Board oversight of the company and micro-managing Executives.

I’m fine with blaming Iger for stuff. But I’m trying to show that there’s an entire cluster of people making decisions that the CEO doesn’t even really have a hand in.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Correct…a month ago many were advocating playing dumb on this point…but now we can “air it out” 👍🏻

…you’re shockingly off here.

“Lead parks” involves understanding what goes on in them and how the CUSTOMERS consume and perceive them. Because that’s how you can do a comprehensive analysis.

Neither of these two have shown any tact with that…

Let’s see how skinny jeans does now without the gorilla attached to him?…if he survives…which i wouldn’t put one cent on
Billionaire Sir Richard Branson got Disney execs Colglazier and Rohde to join him at Virgin Galactic. Who knows who may join the space ship company for the rich and famous.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
There’s a recent story (spin) about how Iger didn’t agree with Chapek on pandemic layoffs. Iger, pulled rank as CotB, and overruled Chapek.

But this should not be taken as “Iger was still in full control.” There’s a lot more to it (specifically, Iger needing to at least appear to support Chapek) and the difference between high-level Board oversight of the company and micro-managing Executives.

I’m fine with blaming Iger for stuff. But I’m trying to show that there’s an entire cluster of people making decisions that the CEO doesn’t even really have a hand in.
I read it…

All of things happened and the moves tanked anyway.

So stories are great…and also meant for kids
 

Raidermatt

Active Member
Did he steal your Bicycle or something??

I throw as much shade at Disney management as anyone and I don’t discriminate ( I have witnesses)…

But your obsession with painting Eisner as useless is not based in facts or rationality.
No, I am just not blinded by memories of Uncle Mikey making sweet talk on The Wonderful World of Disney.

His primary usefulness was manifested in the live action studio, but overall he was a poor CEO.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
No, I am just not blinded by memories of Uncle Mikey making sweet talk on The Wonderful World of Disney.

His primary usefulness was manifested in the live action studio, but overall he was a poor CEO.
Took a rinky studio and turned it into a multimedia conglomerate…

But I get he tends to be polarizing and opinions differ…

So who is good moving forward then? Assuming Frank wells is unavailable…
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
Took a rinky studio and turned it into a multimedia conglomerate…

But I get he tends to be polarizing and opinions differ…

So who is good moving forward then? Assuming Frank wells is unavailable…
At the risk of repeating myself (or being obnoxious), I want to reiterate that WDI has some amazing creative people who ALSO understand the business side. I'd LOVE to have a creative person as CEO, and then all the numbers and finance folks around them could try to balance things out.

I'm also thinking the next CEO needs to really have a handle on technology.
 

Basil of Baker Street

Well-Known Member
That is what Disney is putting out? Wow cringe, no wonder there would be backlash to that drivel.
Best comment was from Nate
"I love advertisements disguised as articles. "
Ha. My favorite was:

"Ok dude, looks like you bought one ticket and hung out with friends, so yeah, I guess the $180 is not gonna break the bank. Report back when you bring a family of five and let us know if you feel the same."
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
And you don’t like Josh either, right?

Also, he did have parks experience because he led the parks. You are unlikely to see jungle cruise captain become ceo. Leaders and executives are shifted around pretty consistently within a company so their knowledge and experience isn’t pigeon holed in one area.
Josh D'Ollar? Not a fan. ;) But to his credit, he has a better social game than many.

Leading the parks division means you have experience with it? That's rich. $lappie did not and does not have the slightest clue about the parks. Period. Someone who actually worked in the parks has parks experience. He had zero hours worked in the parks.
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
Leading the parks division means you have experience with it? That's rich. $lappie did not and does not have the slightest clue about the parks. Period.

LOL what? He led the parks division for five years right? Probably the most successful five years in their history. He oversaw the most investment in the parks ever as well.

What exact in-park knowledge do you think is actually important to have at that level? You think he needs to go through Ride Access Control training or spend a guest control shift moving strollers before he's qualified to run the division?
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
Billionaire Sir Richard Branson got Disney execs Colglazier and Rohde to join him at Virgin Galactic. Who knows who may join the space ship company for the rich and famous.
Are you insinuating that Branson might recruit Chappy to join him at Virgin? If that’s the case, I would think Rhode would BEG Iger for his job back…
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
LOL what? He led the parks division for five years right? Probably the most successful five years in their history. He oversaw the most investment in the parks ever as well.

What exact in-park knowledge do you think is actually important to have at that level? You think he needs to go through Ride Access Control training or spend a guest control shift moving strollers before he's qualified to run the division?
IDK, maybe put the crowd control masking tape down for the 3pm parade?? Lol
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
IDK, maybe put the crowd control masking tape down for the 3pm parade?? Lol

Yeah but if he did that he might come back saying things like... “You can only let so many people in a park before you start to impede on satisfaction level” and who really wants to hear that from the head of parks?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
To your point, positive articles like this normally contained comments of support and agreement from like-minded fans.

But now?

I was at two Xmas parties this past week and I can assure you all, that article is a pack of lies.

7DMT a walk-on? It never went below 40 min.

Mentioning Space Mountain without its epileptic-inducing light show? You didn't go.

Naming everything that happens at a party night as if you could do it all? You didn't go.

Maybe... six years ago, it was as described. But not now. And since all the nights were sold out, we know the crowds were the same all the nights.

I really like the Christmas party. But, it's not an After Hours event. It's crowded (but not *too* crowded).
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
I was at two Xmas parties this past week and I can assure you all, that article is a pack of lies.

7DMT a walk-on? It never went below 40 min.

Mentioning Space Mountain without its epileptic-inducing light show? You didn't go.

Naming everything that happens at a party night as if you could do it all? You didn't go.

Maybe... six years ago, it was as described. But not now. And since all the nights were sold out, we know the crowds were the same all the nights.

I really like the Christmas party. But, it's not an After Hours event. It's crowded (but not *too* crowded).
He stuck to the talking point true or not. He was pushing the low lines so selling a fast pass.
All sales pitch from this guy and was his ticket comped?
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
To your point, positive articles like this normally contained comments of support and agreement from like-minded fans.

But now?

Unless I’m missing something, none of the comments relate to the issue you referred to. They’re complaining about the event’s cost.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
Unless I’m missing something, none of the comments relate to the issue you referred to. They’re complaining about the event’s cost.
The point I think, is the overall sentiment towards Disney is changing for a variety of reasons.

It’s not good when you can look at articles, YouTube videos, new sites etc, and see the majority of comments are negative for whatever the reason may be.

This didn’t use to be the case even a few short years ago.

Something has changed.

Does this matter ?

Well I guess that’s a discussion to be had.
 

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