Sir_Cliff
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Now I'm just curious what sort of groups are forming to coordinate these talking points outside of the public forums!
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News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!
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UNCgolf
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Are you actually serious? If so... oof.
Making jokes (or being intentionally provocative), even if in poor taste, is not remotely equivalent to actually sexually harassing people. That's like suggesting someone who says "we should rob a bank" is the same as a person who shoots someone in the head.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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An absolutely must-see from Christine McCarthy if you want to gauge her credentials and, if you must, her actual looks. The video circles around Disney+ without mentioning it since it wasn't out yet. It also shows that she's very aware of the need for good content and good creatives since it's the heart of what they sell. She's not just a bean-counter looking at short-term gains. [Keep in mind that YouTube allows playing videos at a faster speed.]
And an absolutely must-read (or -listen) regarding the 2-Bob Drama and C-Suite handicapping.
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Disney’s CEO drama explained, with Julia Alexander
A tale of two Bobs: why Bob Chapek was ousted and Bob Iger is back as CEO of Disney.www.theverge.com
Yes…she worked for Bob the great…
Everything he did looks so grand now…from parks that can’t find spots to put the customers…to 2 out of 3 big IP acquisitions kinda lost…to promising gold from a streaming service with no plan to do it…
Bread and circuses for everyone under emperor Iger
OrlandoRising
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And an absolutely must-read (or -listen) regarding the 2-Bob Drama and C-Suite handicapping.
Disney’s CEO drama explained, with Julia Alexander
A tale of two Bobs: why Bob Chapek was ousted and Bob Iger is back as CEO of Disney.
This is absolutely the best explainer to pass along to someone who is new to the CEO drama but wants something really in-depth. Very well done.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Many Disney customers have always been of the larger ilk. The place is laces with fat, salt and sugar…
…just don’t see how this is relevant right now?
…just don’t see how this is relevant right now?
Yes - There were also rumors and gossip that he was actually involved in such activities.
Just as I'm sure that there were NEVER any issues brought up to HR about Lassiter until one such coordinated social campaign in 2017.
Lassiter was never brought up on charges for his "sexual harassment" either criminally or civilly. He was ousted and, as I point out above, it may have been for other than stated reasons - same as the Chapek tenure.
And still waiting for Iger to make parking free at the resorts again... or get rid of the park reservation system... or restore capacity to the parks... or bring back DME... or restore Park Hopping...
Y'know all of those things evil Bob Chapek instigated that made Iger have to come back.
Y'know all of those things evil Bob Chapek instigated that made Iger have to come back.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Tin foil headgear time
UNCgolf
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No there weren't. There were random people making stuff up but absolutely no credible evidence of any kind.
There was a ton of credible evidence around John Lasseter. He even admitted he'd made "mistakes" or "missteps" or something like that.
That is fair. I apologize for missing the reason you replied.
MerlinTheGoat
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A ton of Americans are fat. You know full well that isn't why she advocated for smaller portion sizes. They're doing it to pad their financials, the end, nothing else. No one is falling for that gaslighting nonsense.
Did you expect her to say anything other than "creatives and good content are important" in a public interview? No reasonably intelligent entertainment exec is going to say "yeah we don't care about creativity and the customer can kick rocks lololol", even if they otherwise fully believe that behind closed doors. Did you also believe the quotes from Bob Iger's WSJ puff piece where he claimed to be "alarmed at price hikes" in the parks? It's a gullible mind indeed that believes anyone at the executive level are honest and care about the quality of their products and the customer. That is a long bygone era.
LittleBuford
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The only thing I can’t get past is how much I’m reminded of the character Lyn Scully from Neighbours whenever I see it. Fellow Brits may know who I’m referring to; ironically, there’s less chance that you will, despite being Australian yourself.
But yes, it’s a fine picture, and I too don’t understand why people are so fixated on her looks.
MerlinTheGoat
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James Gunn made lewd jokes on twitter, he has never been accused of sexual harassment as far as I know. Lasseter was a sex pest whose accusations have included forced kissing, attempted groping and generally inappropriate comments/conversations with female Pixar staff. There aren't any doubts that he did it either. Disney has tried to keep a lid on it for a long time now, but it all eventually came out. Even then, they (in particular Zenia Mucha) tried to downplay it (the "unwanted hugs" PR story they put out). He has made no attempts to deny the allegations and has even made a general apology over his actions.
I don't even like Gunn and find his jokes to be extremely distasteful (I can laugh at a lot of crude humor, rape or child molestation jokes are past my limit). But there is a massive difference between what Gunn non-seriously said and what Lasseter very seriously did.
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Disney Analyst
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An absolutely must-see from Christine McCarthy if you want to gauge her credentials and, if you must, her actual looks. The video circles around Disney+ without mentioning it since it wasn't out yet. It also shows that she's very aware of the need for good content and good creatives since it's the heart of what they sell. She's not just a bean-counter looking at short-term gains. [Keep in mind that YouTube allows playing videos at a faster speed.]
And an absolutely must-read (or -listen) regarding the 2-Bob Drama and C-Suite handicapping.
Disney’s CEO drama explained, with Julia Alexander
A tale of two Bobs: why Bob Chapek was ousted and Bob Iger is back as CEO of Disney.
This quote was intriguing.
And so, Christine McCarthy derangement syndrome begins the moment she's whispered as the possible CEO.
All Disney execs are evil. Got it.
Lets get real. Lasseter harassed women while at Disney. He lost his job because of it.
MerlinTheGoat
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Correct, as are the vast majority of execs in general. Derangement is thinking any of these people care about customers, or in fact anything other than money.
CEO responsibility
Focused on shareholder return
Hold staff accountable for profitability
Not meeting or exceeding goals, go look for another job or soon to be out of one
I would like to know which CEO role in a company doesn't have these responsibilities.
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MerlinTheGoat
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Putting out high quality and fairly priced products is a longterm strategy for success that will benefit both customers and shareholders alike. And that absolutely should be (and used to be) the policy the company commits to. The big wig shareholders are not the ones buying the park tickets, food, merch, D+ subs etc. And if we're arguing that a high quality and fairly priced product is antithetical to executive and shareholder interests, we're in BIG trouble as a society in general. But then again, I and most other sane people already knew that.
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Casper Gutman
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The “serve shareholders to the exclusion of all else” is quite a new formulation, not some immutable commandment handed down from on high. It’s a philosophy that began to take hold in the mid to late-70s before running wild in the 80s. It has mutated well beyond what even the academics who defined it would have countenanced, becoming unsubtle and caricatured. It’s an artificial philosophy that more often then not harms or even destroys businesses in the long term.
And no, all Disney executives are not “evil,” they’re all marinated in that philosophy with a healthy dollop of arrogance and unwarranted self-regard mixed in, all cooked in an echo chamber of groupthink. The board is the same, as are all potential hires and the Wall Street intelligentsia that will judge Disney’s actions. It’s why, ultimately, the shift from Chapek to Iger to whoever comes next doesn’t mean much.