News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

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Lilofan

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Skywise said:
Yes - There were also rumors and gossip that he was actually involved in such activities.
Just as I'm sure that there were NEVER any issues brought up to HR about Lassiter until one such coordinated social campaign in 2017.
Lassiter was never brought up on charges for his "sexual harassment" either criminally or civilly. He was ousted and, as I point out above, it may have been for other than stated reasons - same as the Chapek tenure.
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Lets get real. Lasseter harassed women while at Disney. He lost his job because of it.
 
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Lilofan

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Correct, as are the vast majority of execs in general. Derangement is thinking any of these people care about customers, or in fact anything other than money.
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CEO responsibility
Focused on shareholder return
Hold staff accountable for profitability

Not meeting or exceeding goals, go look for another job or soon to be out of one

I would like to know which CEO role in a company doesn't have these responsibilities.
 
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MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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Lilofan said:
CEO responsibility
Focused on shareholder return
Hold staff accountable for profitability

Not meeting or exceeding goals, go look for another job or soon to be out of one

I would like to know which CEO role in a company doesn't have these responsibilities.
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Putting out high quality and fairly priced products is a longterm strategy for success that will benefit both customers and shareholders alike. And that absolutely should be (and used to be) the policy the company commits to. The big wig shareholders are not the ones buying the park tickets, food, merch, D+ subs etc. And if we're arguing that a high quality and fairly priced product is antithetical to executive and shareholder interests, we're in BIG trouble as a society in general. But then again, I and most other sane people already knew that.
 
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Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Lilofan said:
CEO responsibility
Focused on shareholder return
Hold staff accountable for profitability

Not meeting or exceeding goals, go look for another job or soon to be out of one

I would like to know which CEO role in a company doesn't have these responsibilities.
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The “serve shareholders to the exclusion of all else” is quite a new formulation, not some immutable commandment handed down from on high. It’s a philosophy that began to take hold in the mid to late-70s before running wild in the 80s. It has mutated well beyond what even the academics who defined it would have countenanced, becoming unsubtle and caricatured. It’s an artificial philosophy that more often then not harms or even destroys businesses in the long term.

And no, all Disney executives are not “evil,” they’re all marinated in that philosophy with a healthy dollop of arrogance and unwarranted self-regard mixed in, all cooked in an echo chamber of groupthink. The board is the same, as are all potential hires and the Wall Street intelligentsia that will judge Disney’s actions. It’s why, ultimately, the shift from Chapek to Iger to whoever comes next doesn’t mean much.
 
joelsglass

joelsglass

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why would they want a former banker to run the most creative instituion on earth - dont promote CFO to COO and certainly never promte a CFO to CEO - shes hardly Safra Katz - shes just a climb the ladder CFO with good fiancial tools. she will just be a shadow micro managing new CFO. shes not the right person - Although he / she does exist somewhere out there among 8 billion earthlings . but not her - she would be like the former cfo that mattel hired and practically bankrupted the largest most creative asset archive American toy company in a few years time - same would happen - Mattels CEO had the largest female ceo parachute package in history - she is no spring chicken at 70 years old. bill gates fires himself at 50 something - jeff bezos fired himself at 51 -now only dinosaur that needs to fire himself is iger- Great founders and ceos know when to fire themselves -
I say if anyone could run disney blindfolded it would be GM CEO Mary Barra - her resume makes this CFO look like someone out of an 1980s typist pool. Her big newb idea of recent was to reduce portions at disney parks to cut costs and she also added 2 cents about americas waistline could use improving -- not something to say to many many money spending Carmel corn chomping hard working Americans that are mostly fat or healthy joe dad - the average american woman is a 16-18 .


if this CFO is allowed to incestioully hog the C suites merry go round - mark my word Shes 1990 Disney Paris fiasco part deux 2 which Eisner Created by treating France as an Orlando centrally located horrible mistake eurpopens hate ruden french amd parisians hate americanism of disney - Eisner grossly misjudged hoarsed facta and withheld data / as we know it should of been built in barcelona spain - sea warm weather - however luckily eisners smarts and golden rolodex made the save in the 11th hour - eisner saves his job through a saudi prince - how many Americans know this ? not many
it's not like Disney Brags about ruthless human rights scion of agrewing to sell 90% disney to saudi prince hush hush it was a peraonal loan witj collateral against prince 17% ownership of citibank at the time - imagine a bank no bank globally would bail disney out - they easily could of gone bankrupt and not just paris joint venture
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-alwaleed-disney-20171106-story.html this article will explain --- the disaster M Eisner Created which eventually led to his soft ousting as he @ eisner is still the single largest stockholder of Disney even after all these years of not even working there. what the hell does this have to do with the leaderships changes - learn from history - and move on new talent like Mary Barra with a golden rolodex @ us president direct dial - not Ron Desntis like chapek and her pulles. out of their weak internal C suite nerd Rolodex - they will never get Mary Bara - GM would never let that happen- inba million years - Lee Iacocoa saved Chrysler who had less tham 300,000 cash in bank- He brought out caravan and it saved chrysler. Perhaps someone like Bill Ackerman but a CEO mindset a CEO is not annimagineer they honestly only need to make one good decison every day- could you.make one decision a day at Disney? . Of course not! becausw were obsessive Disneyphiles.
 
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Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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dreday3 said:
What is she, 65-67!!! What the heck do you look like?

For the record, she's not unattractive, at all. The picture is funny but it's quite a stretch to actually make issue of her physical looks.
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I do think the discussion on her looks is dismaying and inappropriate. That said, she kind of fired the first shot what with the portion sizes/waistlines fat shaming, not to mention the “undesirable” attendance mix stuff. Her comments, made in her official capacity, have been taken as unusually provocative and demeaning.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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UNCgolf said:
She's almost certainly not going to be the next CEO.

Even if she somehow is, it will be for a short stint. She's in her mid-late 60s at the youngest (can't find her birthday anywhere but she's been working since 1981), and the next CEO won't take over until 2024. She's not someone who would take over and run the company for 15+ years like Iger and Eisner before him.
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She’d be the same age in 2024 as Iger was when he first retired
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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UNCgolf said:
No there weren't. There were random people making stuff up but absolutely no credible evidence of any kind.

There was a ton of credible evidence around John Lasseter. He even admitted he'd made "mistakes" or "missteps" or something like that.
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If I recall…Gunn says some mysoginistic stuff…

Lasseter got loaded all the time and was a serial Grab@$$ player??

Seems like a “divergence”
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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joelsglass said:
why would they want a former banker to run the most creative instituion on earth - dont promote CFO to COO and certainly never promte a CFO to CEO - shes hardly Safra Katz - shes just a climb the ladder CFO with good fiancial tools. she will just be a shadow micro managing new CFO. shes not the right person - Although he / she does exist somewhere out there among 8 billion earthlings . but not her - she would be like the former cfo that mattel hired and practically bankrupted the largest most creative asset archive American toy company in a few years time - same would happen - Mattels CEO had the largest female ceo parachute package in history - she is no spring chicken at 70 years old. bill gates fires himself at 50 something - jeff bezos fired himself at 51 -now only dinosaur that needs to fire himself is iger- Great founders and ceos know when to fire themselves -
I say if anyone could run disney blindfolded it would be GM CEO Mary Barra - her resume makes this CFO look like someone out of an 1980s typist pool. Her big newb idea of recent was to reduce portions at disney parks to cut costs and she also added 2 cents about americas waistline could use improving -- not something to say to many many money spending Carmel corn chomping hard working Americans that are mostly fat or healthy joe dad - the average american woman is a 16-18 .


if this CFO is allowed to incestioully hog the C suites merry go round - mark my word Shes 1990 Disney Paris fiasco part deux 2 which Eisner Created by treating France as an Orlando centrally located horrible mistake eurpopens hate ruden french amd parisians hate americanism of disney - Eisner grossly misjudged hoarsed facta and withheld data / as we know it should of been built in barcelona spain - sea warm weather - however luckily eisners smarts and golden rolodex made the save in the 11th hour - eisner saves his job through a saudi prince - how many Americans know this ? not many
it's not like Disney Brags about ruthless human rights scion of agrewing to sell 90% disney to saudi prince hush hush it was a peraonal loan witj collateral against prince 17% ownership of citibank at the time - imagine a bank no bank globally would bail disney out - they easily could of gone bankrupt and not just paris joint venture
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-alwaleed-disney-20171106-story.html this article will explain --- the disaster M Eisner Created which eventually led to his soft ousting as he @ eisner is still the single largest stockholder of Disney even after all these years of not even working there. what the hell does this have to do with the leaderships changes - learn from history - and move on new talent like Mary Barra with a golden rolodex @ us president direct dial - not Ron Desntis like chapek and her pulles. out of their weak internal C suite nerd Rolodex - they will never get Mary Bara - GM would never let that happen- inba million years - Lee Iacocoa saved Chrysler who had less tham 300,000 cash in bank- He brought out caravan and it saved chrysler. Perhaps someone like Bill Ackerman but a CEO mindset a CEO is not annimagineer they honestly only need to make one good decison every day- could you.make one decision a day at Disney? . Of course not! becausw were obsessive Disneyphiles.
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You might want to check recent articles about the current cfo to ceo examples they seem to believe your point. Not saying cruella would be right but it is common practice
 
LSLS

LSLS

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UNCgolf said:
No there weren't. There were random people making stuff up but absolutely no credible evidence of any kind.

There was a ton of credible evidence around John Lasseter. He even admitted he'd made "mistakes" or "missteps" or something like that.
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THIS. Good Lord, the guy admits it, how can you say there were just allegations around? I can't stand the Gund movies, but this is ridiculous.
 
Nubs70

Nubs70

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Casper Gutman said:
The “serve shareholders to the exclusion of all else” is quite a new formulation, not some immutable commandment handed down from on high. It’s a philosophy that began to take hold in the mid to late-70s before running wild in the 80s. It has mutated well beyond what even the academics who defined it would have countenanced, becoming unsubtle and caricatured. It’s an artificial philosophy that more often then not harms or even destroys businesses in the long term.

And no, all Disney executives are not “evil,” they’re all marinated in that philosophy with a healthy dollop of arrogance and unwarranted self-regard mixed in, all cooked in an echo chamber of groupthink. The board is the same, as are all potential hires and the Wall Street intelligentsia that will judge Disney’s actions. It’s why, ultimately, the shift from Chapek to Iger to whoever comes next doesn’t mean much.
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If a company seeks to achieve a cultural change within the organization then promotes an internal candidate from within, their will be no cultural shift as the new leader/cultural change agent is a product of the original system.
 
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Lilofan

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UNCgolf said:
No there weren't. There were random people making stuff up but absolutely no credible evidence of any kind.

There was a ton of credible evidence around John Lasseter. He even admitted he'd made "mistakes" or "missteps" or something like that.
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When Disney has to resort to having a paid assistant escort Lassiter around to make sure he tries to behave that’s a sad state of affairs.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Nubs70 said:
If a company seeks to achieve a cultural change within the organization then promotes an internal candidate from within, their will be no cultural shift as the new leader/cultural change agent is a product of the original system.
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Unless that internal candidate hates the current culture and wants to sake things up. That could be good or bad depending on the direction. :)
 

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