I find it hard to believe that we ll see 2 billion spent on this park...im guessing around 1 billion with half for SW and half for the other side of the park be it Pixar etc...
Even if it does, people will say it doesn't. They'll add up every attraction that EVER existed and count them as being "eliminated" as part of the project. Those same people count 20K Leagues against New Fantasyland as if that has anything at all to do with it.More importantly, if this redo will actually expand capacity/attraction count.
That's where Star Wars has a Harry Potter-like opportunity.
It's more speculation of what could be done with the $1.75 billion-$2 billion budget... and if the parking garages aren't included in the cost...
Considering NFL/Pandora cost $450-500 million, it's clear a lot can be done with that gigantic of a budget if TDO is smart with the money.
Just trying to figure out if we'll see more than just a couple Star Wars/Pixar additions and parking garages. More importantly, if this redo will actually expand capacity/attraction count.
That's my point. Pixar and Star Wars will increase the volume. I know both have a presence at DHS already, but they'll be more immersive. Look at Be Our Guest, for example. I have no doubt we'll be seeing more features like this in this park refurb.
The longer guests spends in the park, the more likely thing going to spend time looking at merch and needing a meal. Thus, more capacity in that regard will also be needed.
well we know they re building a flex theatre by TOT and RNRC so that's part of this expansion along with TSMM 3rd track so that's what 100 million right there and you know there has to be new infrastructure if they truly want to expand Pixar and star warsYou never know, they may be smart and swing for the fences.
Dammit, Dave. We were all getting along and excited and now you have to come in and shiv the excitement in our souls, Jon Snow style (spoiler alert).I Do appreciate your passions but I think you woefully underestimate the political process that undermines the creativity here.
At this point, studios has nowhere to go but up.
do you think that a star wars land would be different than say star wars weekends since the weekends only happen a few days a year?Just look at SWW numbers and that should show you the effect it has
I think you'd be surprised at the amount of cannibalization that happens in theme park merch / F&B. If I have four shops and close one of them, I'm not going to lose 25% of my merchandise sales. The guy who was going to buy his Mickey t-shirt at shop A will now just buy it at shop B, C, or D. The same is true (perhaps more so) for Food and Beverage. I'm not going to sell more lunches by having more restaurants, because each person is still going to eat one lunch and only one lunch.
The two biggest exceptions are when sit-down dining locations are at capacity (in which case adding capacity adds volume) or when you have some kind of unique offering. That's where Star Wars has a Harry Potter-like opportunity. You might be able to sell Disney Joe a Star Wars t-shirt AND a Mickey t-shirt, rather than just swapping around where he gets the Mickey t-shirt.
well we know they re building a flex theatre by TOT and RNRC so that's part of this expansion along with TSMM 3rd track so that's what 100 million right there and you know there has to be new infrastructure if they truly want to expand Pixar and star wars
do you think that a star wars land would be different than say star wars weekends since the weekends only happen a few days a year?
Love the attention DAK is getting. Plus all of the new or expanded dining options.the number I ve read on here was around 800 million for the entire expansion
Pure guesses
Pandora (500 million)
Harambe expansion (100 million)
ROL (100 million)
Nighttime Safari(100 million)
That's one of the problems with the park, the chaotic layout needs to be fixed. I don't want to see the Chinese Theater from the doorway of the Cantina.
Hopefully the parking lot money isnt included in the in park budget. They aren't cheap to build.
it will depend on the execution...if they decide to go small just because star wars does well it might not be the homerun we all wantPeople go insane for all thing Star Wars. Imagine if they had a Star Wars place to go to.
it will depend on the execution...if they decide to go small just because star wars does well it might not be the homerun we all want
hope you re right..if this was just a star wars expansion I would feel a little bit more confident since this is a DHS expansion who knows what the board will decide...im assuming they will do what Iger wants to do since he's "the man" in their eyesI agree, But with the board members we have. They didn't get rich by going small. I think they will want the big WOW Star Wars can bring along with a huge potential ROI.
Dammit, Dave. We were all getting along and excited and now you have to come in and shiv the excitement in our souls, Jon Snow style (spoiler alert).
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