Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill

[lazyboy97o]

I don’t even get that…
Why would any parent say bullying of any kind is OK…?!?!?!
Please explain in more detail.
And again, I’m just talking about the overall agenda for little children being wayyyyy outta’ whack.

Because there are jerks in this world. That’s the whole problem with this bill. It isn’t tailored to a specific issue or problem. It specifically and deliberately empowers any jerk to act based on their own twisted assessment of appropriateness.

 

[donaldtoo]

So what are you going to tell the 5-year-old who isn't allowed to draw a picture of their family at school because they have gay parents? Or when they aren't allowed to talk about what they did over the weekend with their family?

This bill does nothing but punish children because adults can't get over themselves and their fears. Being gay isn't something that is contagious. You either are gay or you aren't.


There are people who want to pretend that LGBTQ+ families don't exist...including prohibiting the mention of a student's gay parents in an elementary school. This bill opens the door for that kind of bullying - and rewards the bully by allowing them to seek monetary compensation through lawsuits.

Does this bill actually set out to do that…?! I haven’t read the bill, but, can you show me where it specifically states that…?

If that is legit, that’s definitely Bravo Sierra.
Again, show me where bullies are allowed to sue…for being bullies…?!?
Our children knew what gay, lesbian, etc. was at a pretty early age, but, we weren’t asking them what they thought they were.
Why don’t we just let time figure that out…?!

 

[EricsBiscuit]

And yet you want schools to not stop bullying?

Stop trying to frame this bill as something it’s not. You are being totally disingenuous. From your posts, I know you are very intelligent. Too intelligent to think that this bill will enable bullying. This bill is about preventing woke gender ideology instruction to kids 8 years old and younger.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Lots of yelling going on…

 

[lazyboy97o]

Does this bill actually set out to do that…?! I haven’t read the bill, but, can you show me where it specifically states that…?

If that is legit, that’s definitely Bravo Sierra.
Again, show me where bullies are allowed to sue…for being bullies…?!?
Our children knew what gay, lesbian, etc. was at a pretty early age, but, we weren’t asking them what they thought they were.
Why don’t we just let time figure that out…?!

It isn’t specific, that’s the problem.

“A parent of a student may bring an action against a school district to obtain a declaratory judgment that a school district procedure or practice violates this paragraph and seek injunctive relief. A court may award damages and shall award reasonable attorney fees and court costs to a parent who receives declaratory or injunctive relief.”

The criteria doesn’t exist beyond individual parents determining they don’t like something. The whole design is to scare districts with limited funding.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Stop trying to frame this bill as something it’s not. You are being totally disingenuous. From your posts, I know you are very intelligent. Too intelligent to think that this bill will enable bullying. This bill is about preventing woke gender ideology instruction to kids 8 years old and younger.

Outing a child to abusive parents isn’t part of classroom instruction.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Does this bill actually set out to do that…?! I haven’t read the bill, but, can you show me where it specifically states that…?

If that is legit, that’s definitely Bravo Sierra.
Again, show me where bullies are allowed to sue…for being bullies…?!?
Our children knew what gay, lesbian, etc. was at a pretty early age, but, we weren’t asking them what they thought they were.
Why don’t we just let time figure that out…?!

That's the thing - this bill makes the assumption that teachers are trying to teach what it means when a child has 2 moms or 2 dads - and that just isn't happening. The only thing that's happening in grades k-3 is the discussion about families and how they come in all shapes and sizes (including adoption, foster families, bi-racial families, 2 moms, 2 dads, divorced parents, etc. etc.).

This bill also singles out LGBTQ+ issues - so at it's very foundations, the bill is discriminatory. The bill isn't a necessary thing at all because parental rights and sex-ed laws have already been on the books for many years. The sole purpose of this bill is to allow open discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community because the man behind the bill is afraid that "gayness" is being spread through schools (I posted a video upthread where he openly admitted this...I can re-post if you like).

See @lazyboy97o 's explanation of the lawsuits.

 

[donaldtoo]

It isn’t specific, that’s the problem.

“A parent of a student may bring an action against a school district to obtain a declaratory judgment that a school district procedure or practice violates this paragraph and seek injunctive relief. A court may award damages and shall award reasonable attorney fees and court costs to a parent who receives declaratory or injunctive relief.”

The criteria doesn’t exist beyond individual parents determining they don’t like something. The whole design is to scare districts with limited funding.

Really…?!
Timmy told our Tommy that he has 2 mommies, so we’re suing…?!?!?!

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Stop trying to frame this bill as something it’s not. You are being totally disingenuous. From your posts, I know you are very intelligent. Too intelligent to think that this bill will enable bullying. This bill is about preventing woke gender ideology instruction to kids 8 years old and younger.

No, it really isn't because those things weren't allowed before this bill. You're buying into the BS that those behind the bill are spoon-feeding you.

 

[Lilofan]

Stop trying to frame this bill as something it’s not. You are being totally disingenuous. From your posts, I know you are very intelligent. Too intelligent to think that this bill will enable bullying. This bill is about preventing woke gender ideology instruction to kids 8 years old and younger.

You think 8 year olds and under don’t bully? That’s not real world. But back in the day, if young kids got out of line in private school, they had their choice of the belt and shoe prior to discipline. This taught me if I got out of line again I would be made an example in front of the class.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Really…?!
Timmy told our Tommy that he has 2 mommies, so we’re suing…?!?!?!

Yup...pretty much.

 

[donaldtoo]

Lots of yelling going on…

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Yea, this is why I tried my best to stay outta’ the
former political/social issues forum…I’m an old, fat, white dude from Texas…therefore, my opinion doesn’t count anyway…

And, on that note, I’m outta’ here…!!!!!

 

[Californian Elitist]

Yea, this is why I tried my best to stay outta’ the
former political/social issues forum…I’m an old, fat, white dude from Texas…therefore, my opinion doesn’t count anyway…


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And, on that note, I’m outta’ here…!!!!!

Your yelling has nothing to do with your age, weight, race, or where you’re from. That’s just you.

But okay, bye.

 

[Angel Ariel]

We both know that is not what this bill is about.

The point is the vagueness of the bill will result in that.

 

[yensid1967]

Being a gay man of 55 yrs, I am discouraged by the comments from De Santis saying...
"they should understand that parents of young kids do not want this injected into their kid’s kindergarten classroom. You have companies, like at Disney, that are going to say and criticize parents' rights, they’re going to criticize the fact that we don’t want transgenderism in kindergarten in first grade classrooms."
in that, while agreeing that such topics should not be discussed to such a young group, he makes it sound like being a transgender individual is a bad thing! That being gay will rub off on others, making them gay, too! While being transgender is hard for anyone to accept, these people have accepted who they are to be and who is to say anything else!? If your attitude towards trans individuals is they should be who they were born to be, you need to take a BIG STEP back and for one think about them and their feelings and what they must be going through. Its confusing for them to be born one way and feel the other inside. THINK! HAVE COMPASION! It's not easy living with their 'secrets' If you really want to understand, TALK to a transgender and hear their side!

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Well, that was Chapek's initial instinct. His problem is that it provoked unrest within the company which has been more public than I remember ever seeing. I do wonder what the internal conversations are right now about the forced move of WDI from California to Florida so Disney can save on its tax bill.

Disneys political game has been horrible for years on both coasts, they’ve been publicly feuding with Anaheim government for years, they’ve been publicly feuding with CA state government for the last couple years, and now they are publicly feuding with FL state government. They’d be smart to just get out of politics because they’re really bad at it, not to mention their parks are in two polar opposite states so no matter what position they take on politics it’ll be contrary to one of the states leadership.

If I worked for Disney, or any other company, really, and I was told that I had to move to Florida from California, I’d quit and find another job.

And many people feel the opposite, I love visiting CA but if I worked for Disney in FL and they told me I had to move to CA I’d find a new job (unless they offered me millions, I could overlook the obscene costs, homelessness, crime, aggression, and traffic with a bank full of cash). Thankfully states are allowed to be different from each other so we have options.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Being a gay man of 55 yrs, I am discouraged by the comments from De Santis saying...
"they should understand that parents of young kids do not want this injected into their kid’s kindergarten classroom. You have companies, like at Disney, that are going to say and criticize parents' rights, they’re going to criticize the fact that we don’t want transgenderism in kindergarten in first grade classrooms."
in that, while agreeing that such topics should not be discussed to such a young group, he makes it sound like being a transgender individual is a bad thing! That being gay will rub off on others, making them gay, too! While being transgender is hard for anyone to accept, these people have accepted who they are to be and who is to say anything else!? If your attitude towards trans individuals is they should be who they were born to be, you need to take a BIG STEP back and for one think about them and their feelings and what they must be going through. Its confusing for them to be born one way and feel the other inside. THINK! HAVE COMPASION! It's not easy living with their 'secrets' If you really want to understand, TALK to a transgender and hear their side!

This law was literally created because one man fears that kids are "picking up" being gay and transgender in public schools. There's a video I posted earlier in which he openly admits it. It's sick and sad that people are so ill-educated that they think there's any validity to these kinds of opinions.

 

[aladdin2007]

Disneys political game has been horrible for years on both coasts, they’ve been publicly feuding with Anaheim government for years, they’ve been publicly feuding with CA state government for the last couple years, and now they are publicly feuding with FL state government. They’d be smart to just get out of politics because they’re really bad at it, not to mention their parks are in two polar opposite states so no matter what position they take on politics it’ll be contrary to one of the states leadership.



And many people feel the opposite, I love visiting CA but if I worked for Disney in FL and they told me I had to move to CA I’d find a new job (unless they offered me millions, I could overlook the obscene costs, homelessness, crime, aggression, and traffic with a bank full of cash). Thankfully states are allowed to be different from each other so we have options.

perfectly said, I worry chapek is becoming another putin, in essence. He is just enjoying this too much and starting to talk like some dictator which the world does not need. Now he wants to be a bully here in FL, when Disney is the largest employer in the state and the state has helped made them prosper so well. I wish shareholders would wake up and vote him out, but not going to happen of course.. the co needs to just get out of politics badly. Its all a ploy by him with the upcoming elections anyway.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And many people feel the opposite, I love visiting CA but if I worked for Disney in FL and they told me I had to move to CA I’d find a new job (unless they offered me millions, I could overlook the obscene costs, homelessness, crime, aggression, and traffic with a bank full of cash). Thankfully states are allowed to be different from each other so we have options.

That’s completely fine. People can live wherever they want.

 

[Disney Analyst]