Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill

[Sir_Cliff]

'If that’s the hill they’re going to die on, then how do they possibly explain lining their pockets with their relationship from the Communist Party of China? Because that’s what they do, and they make a fortune, and they don’t say a word about the really brutal practices that you see over there at the hands of the CCP'

Not a hill you want to die on Disney - move along like nothing happened. Those of us who live in Orlando & understand your business dynamics with the state recommend you STFU right about now. Florida isn't Cali, never will be.

The Governor can make your life a living nightmare. And its not like you can pack up & leave Florida. Just put your head down & move on. You're in a no win situation.

Well, that was Chapek's initial instinct. His problem is that it provoked unrest within the company which has been more public than I remember ever seeing. I do wonder what the internal conversations are right now about the forced move of WDI from California to Florida so Disney can save on its tax bill.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m not sure how Disney’s (despicable) relationship with China in any way affects Florida’s passage of an over reaching bill that impinges on how citizens are told to live…badly, by the way? Nothing more “conservative” than passing blanket laws written by unqualified, for sale people that put in restrictions on “problems” that are all ginned up. Yep…defend “freedom”…wear a pin on your lapel and waive a flag.

Two separate evils do not “cancel each other out”…maybe instead of gender identification/orientation…everyone should concentrate on whether curriculums included simple reasoning skills 20,30,40+ years ago?

 

[Lilofan]

I’m not sure how Disney’s (despicable) relationship with China in any way affects Florida’s passage of an over reaching bill that impinges on how citizens are told to live…badly, by the way? Nothing more “conservative” than passing blanket laws written by unqualified, for sale people that put in restrictions on “problems” that are all ginned up. Yep…defend “freedom”…wear a pin on your lapel and waive a flag.

Two separate evils do not “cancel each other out”…maybe instead of gender identification/orientation…everyone should concentrate on whether curriculums included simple reasoning skills 20,30,40+ years ago?

A few just like to get their digs on China which is responsible for supplying approx 70% of our meds in the USA. This was typed on a device made in China. TWDC saw potential among a number of USA companies to build and invest in China. Heck, part of my 401K plan invests in Asia company stocks including in China. The ROI has been favorable long term.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A few just like to get their digs on China which is responsible for supplying approx 70% of our meds in the USA. This was typed on a device made in China. TWDC saw potential among a number of USA companies to build and invest in China. Heck, part of my 401K plan invests in Asia company stocks including in China. The ROI has been favorable long term.

I’m not a fan of “globalization”…or any of the very obvious tricks that are used to throw dirt on it.

1985: “shipping jobs overseas” and buying everything from them = BAD!
2000: “globalization” = GREAT! …Let’s all get rich and drink Starbucks while we text on our blackberrys!

No…never really sold that…


But this has nothing to do with China.

This is Florida looking to push boundaries to address a “problem” that isn’t even there. Using fear of a “slippery slope” as the cause. And Disney is intertwined with Florida. Ever since Walt had the presser in the hotel in 1964. We are all naive if we think this isn’t an issue for them. They didn’t cause it…but they don’t get to “not deal” with it. Chapek is not a savvy corporate leader. I think we all knew that. Its just silly to put our hands over our eyes/ears and “demand” that Disney not be involved with this specific instance. We’re not standing outside the emporium waiting for parade here.

And by the way…China is a horrible regime. And has been for 80 years. Money is not a moral justification and never will be. I don’t support China cause Eisner and Iger stupidly built parks to maintain their sweatshop pipelines…it’s just not the issue at hand.

 

[Angel Ariel]

And then let the 2nd grade teachers focus on upper case versus lower case letters.

Talk about a dog whistle. None of what’s being discussed here prevents or interferes with daily academic instruction.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Well, that was Chapek's initial instinct. His problem is that it provoked unrest within the company which has been more public than I remember ever seeing.

He's only been CEO for just over 2 years now and has already gotten himself into multiple, high-profile PR bungles (most notably this Bill and the fight with Scarlet Johansson).

One has to question how many of these he can get away with, even if the stock price is considered OK.

 

[Angel Ariel]

It seems perverted to want to talk to 8 year olds about the topics covered in this bill.

It’s perverted to read picture books in class where the family may have 2 dads or 2 moms? It’s perverted for a child to share about their parents if those parents are the same gender? It’s perverted for a gay, married teacher, when the entire class is sharing about what they did last weekend, to say “my husband and I went to magic kingdom. We’re so happy to see the parade again!”?

Each of these things could very easily be sued over under this law.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ahhh…now it’s about getting rid of “perverts”?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Ahhh…now it’s about getting rid of “perverts”?

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Just those trying to indoctrinate small children before they've had a chance to question their own identity and beliefs. The bill is to curb imprinting a child with an agenda that goes against the developmental teachings of the parents. At the ages outlined in the bill, the teacher's job is solely to educate the child on the core fundamentals of education i.e. reading, spelling, mathematics, etc. There's a time and place for everything.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Thanks to BOB more S**t has hit the fan and gotten splattered all over the place and the stench is getting bad. Bob stepped out of his lane and stepped in it creating a Disney involvement in something not related to what the company is supposed to be doing. Entertaining the young, the old and everyone in between, anyone that is young at heart.

 

[Californian Elitist]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/10/florida-legislature-passes-anti-woke-bill/

If I worked for Disney, or any other company, really, and I was told that I had to move to Florida from California, I’d quit and find another job.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Just those trying to indoctrinate small children before they've had a chance to question their own identity and beliefs. The bill is to curb imprinting a child with an agenda that goes against the developmental teachings of the parents. At the ages outlined in the bill, the teacher's job is solely to educate the child on the core fundamentals of education i.e. reading, spelling, mathematics, etc. There's a time and place for everything.

Acknowledging different family makeups - which is all this type of instruction is in k-3 - is not indoctrinating children into anything.
All children should see their families - and themselves - represented in the books used in schools. Representation matters. It’s why I go in every year and read books featuring characters with my daughter’s disability - it helps children understand differences from themselves and accept others as they are, and not be scared of differences.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Acknowledging different family makeups - which is all this type of instruction is in k-3 - is not indoctrinating children into anything.
All children should see their families - and themselves - represented in the books used in schools. Representation matters. It’s why I go in every year and read books featuring characters with my daughter’s disability - it helps children understand differences from themselves and accept others as they are, and not be scared of differences.

That is correct. It's the job of the parent. Not the school district or teacher.

 

[Angel Ariel]

That is correct. It's the job of the parent. Not the school district or teacher.

As in I go into the school building and read to my child’s class. So a gay parent bringing in a book like I do could also get the district sued under this vague law. When I can do that, but another parent can’t - that’s discrimination.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just those trying to indoctrinate small children into their cult of crazy before they've had a chance to question their own identity and beliefs. The bill is to curb imprinting a child with an agenda that goes against the developmental teachings of the parents. At the ages outlined in the bill, the teacher's job is solely to educate the child on the core fundamentals of education i.e. reading, spelling, mathematics, etc. There's a time and place for everything.

I hate everything about this…from both “sides”…

But I don’t think this is about that at all…it’s yet another weird foray into kooksville that’s has intensified these last few years.

There is alarming trend to tell schools what to do on everything. But that’s not a school. It’s a daycare where you tell them what to say. That’s not a sustainable model to provide education to children. And it shouldn’t be dictated by old men on 2 year elected terms and set into permanent laws.

Why have trained people teach their kids if you don’t trust them? People have lost their damn minds because they’re angry…they’re reactionary…and at the end of day they want money and don’t know how to get it (as it’s paraded under their noses as a “goal” 24/7)…which brings us full circle to Disney, it’s place in Florida, it’s rather “tolerant” history to this point, and why Bob was a fool to not think he was gonna catch all kinds of hell here.

Now I’m gonna hit that “unwatch” button for the 5th time and get outta here. Please don’t quote me:

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thanks to BOB more S**t has hit the fan and gotten splattered all over the place and the stench is getting bad. Bob stepped out of his lane and stepped in it creating a Disney involvement in something not related to what the company is supposed to be doing. Entertaining the young, the old and everyone in between, anyone that is young at heart.

Disney isn’t about “magic and dreams”…it’s about money. Let’s not embarrass ourselves here.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Disney isn’t about “magic and dreams”…it’s about money. Let’s not embarrass ourselves here.

Yes, The Bottom Line. Hence he is damaging it, don't you smell the deterioration?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I hate everything about this…from both “sides”…

But I don’t think this is about that at all…it’s yet another weird foray into kooksville that’s has intensified these last few years.

There is alarming trend to tell schools what to do on everything. But that’s not a school. It’s a daycare where you tell them what to say. That’s not a sustainable model to provide education to children. And it shouldn’t be dictated by old men on 2 year elected terms and set into permanent laws.

Why have trained people teach their kids if you don’t trust them? People have lost their damn minds because they’re angry…they’re reactionary…and at the end of day they want money and don’t know how to get it (as it’s paraded under their noses as a “goal” 24/7)…which brings us full circle to Disney, it’s place in Florida, it’s rather “tolerant” history to this point, and why Bob was a fool to not think he was gonna catch all kinds of hell here.

Now I’m gonna hit that “unwatch” button for the 5th time and get outta here. Please don’t quote me:

It is pretty ugly. Where do you draw the line? Some don't want a line which is absurd, IMHO. Others say the line isn't defined well enough. The bill is vague no doubt. I just have to question WHY someone would want these teachings in the classroom. There's a better forum.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes, The Bottom Line. Hence he is damaging it, don't you smell the deterioration?

You quoted me

…but we are tiptoeing around this…

I don’t see this issue as being that complicated:

This is political…not a social issue. There are two madmen on diverging paths in that state jockeying for power.

Chapek is not qualified to be Disney’s ceo. Blame IGER and the board. This is just more proof.

And “Disney isn’t about this” or “they shouldn’t be political” is naive, silly and immature in the end. And it’s back to the same place when bad movies or ridiculous prices are defended: fans let their emotions outweigh their intellect when it comes to Disney. They are huge in Florida…as long as this is an issue…they will be involved.

That campus move to Florida to get back at Anaheim and cut jobs…which is all it really is when the BS is cut through…is a horrible move. If they didn’t see the nuthouse Florida had become prior to announcement…then shame on them.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

As in I go into the school building and read to my child’s class. So a gay parent bringing in a book like I do could also get the district sued under this vague law. When I can do that, but another parent can’t - that’s discrimination.

Apologies. I misread your post. No, your rights as a parent only applies to YOUR child.