JohnD
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Maybe it would help if people read the bill before making political statements about it.
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Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill
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Sirwalterraleigh
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It’s been read frontwards and backwards about a million times this week.
It neither mandates nor limits.
The most dangerous precedents in law are those that set none.
No Name
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Hey, instead of pausing donations to all Florida politicians, how about permanently ending donations to the idiots who support this bill and giving that money to their opponents?
I never thought Bob Chapek was a good CEO, but he’s really showing what a pathetic human being he is.
I never thought Bob Chapek was a good CEO, but he’s really showing what a pathetic human being he is.
"prohibiting classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity"
Great, want to tell me why a teacher can stop the bullying of a little girl who has mixed race parents by explaining that is perfectly normal, but can not do the same by explaining that a little girl can have two moms or two dads?
Do we have a politics subforum again?
Sir_Cliff
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This seems to be a legitimate story about Disney right now.
If you don't want to talk about it, you don't have to read the thread.
It is a legit story and it is political so it goes against forum rules about discussing politics.
THEMEPARKPIONEER
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Why doesn’t Disney just stay out of the real world, out of politics and social issues and just be the Disney it’s always been?
Angel Ariel
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Sexuality and sexual orientation are not the same thing, imo. It may be splitting hairs, but I do think those are important hairs to split. Kids are learning about relationships via observation from the moment they are born. putting LGBTQ labels to the relationships theyve seen since birth isn’t teaching “sexuality,” imo, and should be treated as just a fact of existence - these relationships exist.
Teaching about the act of sex and intimacy - yes i am in agreement with you there, that when to teach that is a belief issue - one easily solved by the existing opt-out frameworks used across the country.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sir_Cliff
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It was moved here by the mods from the thread about WDI moving to Florida, so that has been the solution to allow people to discuss it in the WDC forum while keeping it out of the other threads. Again, rather than trying to make everyone else stop talking about it, you could just ignore this thread.
CaptinEO
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Yep.
CaptinEO
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LOL to your post. Talk about going too far.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It’s a terrible subject…that is 100% relevant fo Disney, it’s employees, it’s parks, and ultimately it’s customers.
It sucks…but the world is not as simple as you seem to believe.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Oh brother…
Cause it never was that? It’s about securing and insuring the collection of money…which has been tied to politics since roads and languages were invented?
Sir_Cliff
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I did see that (over 2 million views on Twitter) and I think it captured how bad Chapek's original message was. He would have been better staying silent than sending that first internal letter. I would be interested to know whether it's finally beginning to dawn on Chapek that he has to manage perceptions of the company and himself beyond the level of whatever rehearsals he had to do in front of the mirror for his D23 presentations as head of Parks & Resorts. This is certainly a case where he just seemed to think some platitudes and a promise to look into changing how certain things are done in the future would be enough. Again, better to say nothing than that.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I bet Bob thought he’d just get to double charge people and talk to his broker all the time, huh?
A shareholder revolt is still not anywhere in the cards, unless the stock drops like a rock back to late Eisner levels.
But this public brouhaha could lead to strained relationships between Chapek and the board, and lead to an eventual resignation down the line. If there is going to be an end to the Chapek era so soon, it would have to be in that form.
But this public brouhaha could lead to strained relationships between Chapek and the board, and lead to an eventual resignation down the line. If there is going to be an end to the Chapek era so soon, it would have to be in that form.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Remember when he got rid of iger’s evil - and ruthlessly effective - prime 2 fixers last fall?
TP2000
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That's where I get confused. I'm a childless gay man and I don't even remember 1st or 2nd grade. My earliest memories of school is 3rd grade; hazy memories of my teacher Miss Sorensen and my classroom with yellow walls.
So I'm very confused on why schools are even mentioning sex and sexuality to pre-schoolers through third graders?!? How is that even an appropriate topic for a 4 to 8 year old child? Yikes!
Someone is going to have to walk me through how that type of sexuality topic plays out for 6 year olds in a classroom. I just don't get it. It's creepy and just seems wrong to me.
Isn't that exactly what the argument is though? Florida's elected representatives passed a law banning the discussion of sex and sexuality for children from preschool through the 3rd grade; ages 4 through 8.
That seems like a very rational law, although I'm still flummoxed why it was even needed in the first place. I'd also like to see what the proposed sexuality curricula was for 6 year old kids. Because again, it just seems wildly inappropriate to be discussing that stuff with very young kids who don't even know what sex is yet.
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