Bob Chapek Confirms Disney Will Overhaul Epcot

[Bocabear]

At least we have footage

The second version made it a little more kid-friendly and added a great Mencken song "The Compass Of Your Heart"... Original version was definitely more dramatic but both versions are beautiful...They should make the movie, and build a clone of this ride!

 

[Bocabear]

the redone version is really charming...

 

[Admiral01]

the redone version is really charming...

It really is. I wasn't sure what to expect, especially after a day of high quality attractions like Journey, 20,000 Leagues, Indy, and walking around the really impressive DisneySea theme park. And, with a name that contained "story book" all I could picture was the Disneyland storybook ride, which really is for little kids.

Sinbad impressed the heck out of me, and I think it is actually my wife and my favorite attraction at DisneySea. We rode it like 4 times the first day were were there. It is a great representation of what a well executed non-thrill dark ride should be.

 

[FigmentJedi]

At least we have footage

The second version made it a little more kid-friendly and added a great Mencken song "The Compass Of Your Heart"... Original version was definitely more dramatic but both versions are beautiful...They should make the movie, and build a clone of this ride!

the redone version is really charming...

I still feel like Storybook Voyage is a complete mistake in terms of tone. It's too sappy and defanged with no real sense of danger, an absolute stereotype of what Disney does with old stories. Like if the SNL Titey Sketch was a real Disney movie.

The ride was the weird baby of Small World and Pirates, but it ended up going full Small World. You can absolutely do cute and adventurous: It's called Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. Gimme a Menken song more like the deleted High Adventure number from Aladdin and keep the sense of peril.

 

[brb1006]

the redone version is really charming...

It reminds me of It's A Small World but different.

 

[brb1006]

Yet, we still get a ton of rides with visible lights and systems in WDW x_x
Anyone remembers the first Mermaid version before the light tweaks?

And no sign of search lights at all (Except for the Dream sequence but it works since the section is set in a disco style room)

 

[brb1006]

It really is. I wasn't sure what to expect, especially after a day of high quality attractions like Journey, 20,000 Leagues, Indy, and walking around the really impressive DisneySea theme park. And, with a name that contained "story book" all I could picture was the Disneyland storybook ride, which really is for little kids.

Sinbad impressed the heck out of me, and I think it is actually my wife and my favorite attraction at DisneySea. We rode it like 4 times the first day were were there. It is a great representation of what a well executed non-thrill dark ride should be.

The giant AA is also impressive as well

 

[brb1006]

I still feel like Storybook Voyage is a complete mistake in terms of tone. It's too sappy and defanged with no real sense of danger, an absolute stereotype of what Disney does with old stories. Like if the SNL Titey Sketch was a real Disney movie.

The ride was the weird baby of Small World and Pirates, but it ended up going full Small World. You can absolutely do cute and adventurous: It's called Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. Gimme a Menken song more like the deleted High Adventure number from Aladdin and keep the sense of peril.

They might had to make that change to avoid the Snow White's Adventure situations again.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Or more likely it will be sold to an aircraft salvage company as its parts are quite valuable as that particular plane is still in passenger service in South America and Asia and TWDC kept the aircrafts certificate current so the parts are resaleable because they were removed from a certified aircraft and hence eligible for FAA yellow tags once overhauled at a maintenance depot

Why will Disney junk it well just another step in removing Walts influence from the company

I was under the impression, based on posts here by reliable sources and other places that everything except the fuselage was striped clean. The engines, interior seating, etc., any real mechanical stuff was removed years ago, perhaps sold off at that time. We were told that the plane that we saw on the backlot tour was just the skeletal shell of the original. If that is the case then they could use it for a prop someplace else or send it to a museum (perhaps the family museum in San Francisco) or trash it. Selling the parts that have been sitting in the Florida sun all these years would be rather difficult, I would think. I certainly wouldn't want to be riding in the plane that used them.

They don't have to be sneaky to erase Walt's influence from the company. He has been dead for 50 years, no one currently in Disney management feels an allegiance to him in that sense anymore. As long as the name Disney continues to be used... and they would be absolute idiots to ever let that change, what ever influence Walt still has will remain. The plane doesn't add or subtract from that at all. It is, however, something that people that have an interest in History do relish seeing. Keeping it is all plus and no negative. How about those empty places that will appear as soon as the Launch Pad is closed down. Simple connection to One Mans Dream, bring it inside on display and with little or no expense, they have a new draw to that attraction.

 

[jt04]

Yes, yes it does but 'Diznee is a Bizness'.... and unless they get a huge tax writeoff for that plane off to da boneyard it goes

That would be very shortsighted. Almost any part can be manufactured these days with automation. That plane is worth much more than its parts. Here are some ideas.

To make it as inexpensive to restore as possible, perhaps they don't need to refurbish the interior. Make the exterior as original as possible to the look it had during Walt's day. Then suspend it in a high place such as the Contemporary atrium. Or similar venue. OCCC. New Intermodel at MCO etc.

IMO.

 

[Ewizaboof]

They might had to make that change to avoid the Snow White's Adventure situations again.

Original Sinbad wasn't too bad, but the tone was really... Awkward?
Just very grim for seemingly no reason, I find the new version better.

Lets be real the original SWSA was an absolute nightmare. echoing witch cackling, surreal frightening images, virtually no music.
The concept was good, you being snow white, but they cut out any positive experience she had in the movie and just turned it into an awful weird "You're Snow White running through her own fever dream."

 

[Princess Leia]

Original Sinbad wasn't too bad, but the tone was really... Awkward?
Just very grim for seemingly no reason, I find the new version better.

Lets be real the original SWSA was an absolute nightmare. echoing witch cackling, surreal frightening images, virtually no music.
The concept was good, you being snow white, but they cut out any positive experience she had in the movie and just turned it into an awful weird "You're Snow White running through her own fever dream."

Even the newer version of the ride scared the everliving crap out of me as a child. Absolutely hated it growing up.

 

[Bocabear]

Sinbad's Storybook Voyage is a real Disney classic... Catchy tune, elaborate sets and detailed AAs. Even the lyrics...About following the compass of your heart, doing good deeds, Spreading happiness... The sidekick tiger Chandu is great and would sell a TON of plush.. I would love to see a dubbed version.. in the states anyway.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You're awful at debate. Few things are so black or white. You were responding to this:

"Apparently a lot of people here need to wake up to that fact because they think it's all about altruism and artwork, purity, fairy dust, super fans telling a company what to do (and that what they do is "wrong") because the super fans have some imaginary claim over the legacy.

When someone starts naïvely whining and crying about "why can't Disney just fix everything at the same time?" Out comes the appropriate business argument."

And your answer in no way addressed the post to which you were responding.

You are the one saying it is black and white. You keep saying anything other than what Disney does would somehow defy the concept of them being a business.

You think you can, but you haven't. And you overvalue your own opinion in the equation.

Go back and read, as I have.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

But would it not be fair to state that the limitation is merely an extension of a bad decision and therefore a poor excuse?

It may or may not be fair in various cases, but it's irrelevant. Whatever the financial situation is now, it is.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

I don't want to be the one to say it, but some things from the Cars 3 trailer look very Test Track-esque...

How much longer until the GM contract is up again?

 

[Ewizaboof]

I don't want to be the one to say it, but some things from the Cars 3 trailer look very Test Track-esque...

How much longer until the GM contract is up again?

STOOOOOP
HS is already turning into Disney's IP Dump Land, I don't want Epcot to go that way too.

 

[MisterPenguin]

STOOOOOP
HS is already turning into Disney's IP Dump Land, I don't want Epcot to go that way too.

Except in this case, it has the potential to make TT better. The current theming of making your own test car and testing it is completely obliterated by the fact that you all are riding the same car with the same reactions even though everyone in the car is testing a different design. It's pretty ridiculous... as in I'm ridiculing it as making sense.

The original story made sense and it was ruined to shoe horn in a new corporate sponsor. So, think about that... a corporate sponsor's influence made a ride worse (IMO). I don't know how people can be upset when a Disney IP is overlayed to an attraction but they're OK when some other corporation's IP is not only overlaying the attraction, but making it dumb.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Sinbad's Storybook Voyage is a real Disney classic... Catchy tune, elaborate sets and detailed AAs. Even the lyrics...About following the compass of your heart, doing good deeds, Spreading happiness... The sidekick tiger Chandu is great and would sell a TON of plush.. I would love to see a dubbed version.. in the states anyway.

I agree.

If it were up to me, I'd make a brand new It's A Small World and put it in Epcot. It would feature the animated doll tech of Sinbad. And I'd commission someone to re-orchestrate the theme song with counter melodies and bridges so it's not so darned repetitive. I'd also give the ride a real in-theme ceiling that's not industrial tile or hanging clouds in front of industrial tile. Make it so good, that very little will complain when the one in the MK gets shut down.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The original story made sense and it was ruined to shoe horn in a new corporate sponsor. So, think about that... a corporate sponsor's influence made a ride worse (IMO). I don't know how people can be upset when a Disney IP is overlayed to an attraction but they're OK when some other corporation's IP is not only overlaying the attraction, but making it dumb.

General Motors has been the sponsor of the Transportation Pavilion since 1982...