Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

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doctornick

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They should scrap it and make a brand new move with a re-casted T'Challa. Personally, I think it is a mistake to not continue on with that character.

I almost kind of feel like there is a Curse of Boseman affecting this production. This has been so troubled that it seems like they have done something to him off (RIP).
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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doctornick said:
They should scrap it and make a brand new move with a re-casted T'Challa. Personally, I think it is a mistake to not continue on with that character.

I almost kind of feel like there is a Curse of Boseman affecting this production. This has been so troubled that it seems like they have done something to **** him off (RIP).
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Yeah I think I may be leaning that way too. As interesting as it might be to see how Wakanda adapts to losing their king and as much as it might seem weird to have a different actor, it may be the way to go. At the same time, I had become somewhat attached to the idea of a T'Challa child destined to be the king while protected by the women of Wakanda.

But from a scheduling standpoint, November is nearly an impossibility. We've seen the pics of the water being used so that aspect of post-production requires more time than a usual high-cost film (which is around 10-12 months anyway). If they are just now moving locations to Puerto Rico, then there's that whole set of filming to be done. Even IF they finish in March, that's an 8-month post-production timeframe.

They COULD move it to February, 2023 and then move all other films up a time slot. Or they could move it to May, 2023 and move GOTG3 to July and Ant-Man 3 to November, 2023. OR they could re-do the film, recast, and get BP2 out in November 2023. But they are now so far into the process that starting over doesn't seem reasonable. My prediction is what I have bolded. It seems that 2024 films will include Blade, Fantastic Four, Captain America 4, and possibly Shang-Chi 2 or a new X-Men reboot. I don't think that any of those are far along in the PRE-production phase anyway so I don't think any are projected to be released in 2023.

The movie was originally scheduled for May, 2022. The massive upheavals on all fronts only moved it a couple of months here and there. The film should have immediately have been moved back a year in the first place. So May, 2023 is not that big a deal at all. I don't even think that GOTG3 is finished filming yet.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Jedijax719 said:
comicbook.com

Marvel's Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Wraps Filming

Production on Black Panther: Wakanda Forever has finally wrapped according to social media posts from key crew members of the Marvel sequel. Filming first began on the film in the summer, continuing through November and then taking an extended hiatus, partially due to actress Letitia Wright...
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Depending on what post-production is needed that would indicate its not actually going to be delayed.
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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I think Disney should move the Marvels up to November and push Black Panther: Wakanda Forever to February so that it has more time for post-production. I don't think the two movies have any strong connections so I think Disney could easily swap their release dates.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Ghost93 said:
I think Disney should move the Marvels up to November and push Black Panther: Wakanda Forever to February so that it has more time for post-production. I don't think the two movies have any strong connections so I think Disney could easily swap their release dates.
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There was a rumor about doing this, but I think it was just a rumor. Actually, probably just speculation.

Ms. Marvel comes out in June. They can use that to launch the marketing for The Marvels very easily. Maybe a big gamble if Ms. Marvel is not a hit though. But The Marvels finished filming in November, 2021 and has a MUCH bigger chance of being ready than BP2. It will have been in post-production for 4 months before Black Panther even finished filming. So, technically, The Marvels should be ready by November. Maybe they are waiting to see how Ms. Marvel is received and the progress of BP2 by then.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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I’m still having a hard time believing they are proceeding with this in this fashion. But nothing really surprises me with corporate and their “slap a label on it” mentality.

Luckily I trust Feige more than any other Disney employee that wears a suit/business casual to work.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I’m still having a hard time believing they are proceeding with this in this fashion. But nothing really surprises me with corporate and their “slap a label on it” mentality.

Luckily I trust Feige more than any other Disney employee that wears a suit/business casual to work.
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In what fashion?
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Jedijax719 said:
In what fashion?
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I don’t see the wisdom in proceeding on a sequel on schedule after the star - who was amazing in that role - died unexpectedly and tragically.

This is the Bobs “only the brand matters” nonsense.

No…the characters and plots are what matters…common sense isn’t that common.

I’m understandably cynical here. They have a fantastic actor returning to do a show right now in the “other” big universe…and their making the show about a ten year old girl.

I’m surprised they didn’t paint her green 🙄
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I don’t see the wisdom in proceeding on a sequel on schedule after the star - who was amazing in that role - died unexpectedly and tragically.

This is the Bobs “only the brand matters” nonsense.

No…the characters and plots are what matters…common sense isn’t that common.

I’m understandably cynical here. They have a fantastic actor returning to do a show right now in the “other” big universe…and their making the show about a ten year old girl.

I’m surprised they didn’t paint her green 🙄
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Okay I can see what you are saying. My thinking is that Coogler (and probably Feige depending on his position in this) were pressured to keep with a schedule despite the tragic loss of Chadwick. The movie was originally scheduled for May, 2022. It was never even delayed a whole year. It was just pushed to July and then November. The movie had a LOT going against it. February, 2023 would have been the 5-year anniversary from the first one and would have been the same weekend as the first one and during African American heritage month. Seems to me that the Disney execs said "no, we need to pump this out THIS year" without any regards to production and story fine-tuning.

This is the movie I am most looking forward to but also the one i am most nervous about because I feel it is being VERY VERY rushed. If they come across something that isn't quite right during the truncated post-production, they have NO time for reshoots. Sure, post-production for No Way Home was sped up, but the circumstances for BP2 are different.

Or maybe it is because I want the movie to be so great and I don't want to see another Rise of Skywalker (not a bad movie, but a little more time polishing would have helped).
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Jedijax719 said:
Okay I can see what you are saying. My thinking is that Coogler (and probably Feige depending on his position in this) were pressured to keep with a schedule despite the tragic loss of Chadwick. The movie was originally scheduled for May, 2022. It was never even delayed a whole year. It was just pushed to July and then November. The movie had a LOT going against it. February, 2023 would have been the 5-year anniversary from the first one and would have been the same weekend as the first one and during African American heritage month. Seems to me that the Disney execs said "no, we need to pump this out THIS year" without any regards to production and story fine-tuning.

This is the movie I am most looking forward to but also the one i am most nervous about because I feel it is being VERY VERY rushed. If they come across something that isn't quite right during the truncated post-production, they have NO time for reshoots. Sure, post-production for No Way Home was sped up, but the circumstances for BP2 are different.

Or maybe it is because I want the movie to be so great and I don't want to see another Rise of Skywalker (not a bad movie, but a little more time polishing would have helped).
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Exaclty.

Only think I disagree with is this. That was embarrassing…which I’m sure people will openly say once the checks are all cashed and the NDAs run out.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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There are ways they can make BP2 meaningful. I have confidence that Coogler cared deeply enough about Chadwick (and Feige and the cast cared as well) to make it impactful.

Losing someone is difficult in ANY capacity. T'Challa naturally passing away goes beyond good vs evil and war. Showing the other Wakandans dealing with the natural loss of T'Challa while facing new threats and challenges can bring emotional and human aspects to the story Coogler tells. To make it even more meaningful, they could have a child of T'Challa and Nakia, hidden away during the "blip" in a secluded place, protected by Nakia, awaiting the day he can become king (the child could be about 10 during the movie if you consider natural timeframe and the blip).

Shuri seems more the scientist type than that warrior type and I don't see her as a good fit for taking up the mantle of BP. She needs to head up the science and research as T'challa hoped and that would naturally bring in Riri Williams. The rumor is that
Riri invents something that inadvertently causes a conflict with Namor and Atlantis
. I can see a Catch-22 scenario where some sort of accidental tech misfire causes conflict between Namor and Wakanda.

I also had a dream where there was an actual black panther roaming around Wakanda (even though they don't live in Africa-they live in India) which is T'Challa in a kind of reincarnated, guardian role.

In any case, I think the theme will be "what would T'challa do?" to give honor to him.
 

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