Or use the dynamic of the multiverse to bring a “TChalla” from another universe where Wakanda was destroyed and have him become Black Panther in the MCU main
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
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Sirwalterraleigh
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I don’t know how you make a superhero movie without the superhero??
I dunno…this sure seems like Disney saying “we know better” and forcing a “recentering” of something that wasn’t broken…
…good thing is they’ve never tried that before
erasure fan1
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There's a ton they could have done. Unfortunately they didn't give it enough time before they made the decision that they wouldn't recast or go digital.
Sirwalterraleigh
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…way too geeker…starting to stray away from the lucrative mainstream
Jedijax719
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Agreed. If the project wasn't scheduled to begin production until a year or more later, it wouldn't be as MUCH of an issue (but still an issue).
They'll probably go with the "Black Panther is a symbol, not a person" kind of situation. That, or T'Challa has a child who they ALL protect together so he can someday take the mantle of his father.
Thing about Black Panther is that, while the society has tons of tech, it is grounded in spirituality and culture. The multiverse thing with Killmonger sounds reasonable within the current climate of the multiverse (every movie seems to be taking that angle now), but I am not so sure it would fit into the themes of Wakanda. Nice thought though. We'll see in coming months what is rumored and if they are even going to release the movie this year.
I'd personally say there's no way this movie can remotely possibly come out in 2022. For that matter, neither can Aquaman 2.
I can see BP2 coming out either next summer or even in one whole year. And whatever spot it doesn't take, Ant-Man 3 will take it (be it July or November, 2023.). DC moves Aquaman 2 to late March, 2023, spaced out enough between Marvels and GOTG3. It's even possible that BP2 takes the spot from GOTG3 and GOTG3 moves to July, bumping Ant Man to a later date (Ant Man is the one which will make the least $$$).
Then, if Marvels is going to face delays, it changes EVERYTHING.
Phicinfan
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Its not unprecedented folks. The Comics have story lines where T'Challa is dead and Shuri takes over and some others. This isn't a "Disney" decision, its a Feige decision. He has done a fairly good job guiding this ship.
Also, the leading expectation I have read is a child was born and HE will eventually take over as Black Panther, not a recast or variant. That actually isn't a bad story line.
Also, the leading expectation I have read is a child was born and HE will eventually take over as Black Panther, not a recast or variant. That actually isn't a bad story line.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Jedijax719
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Protect the future king by taking on temporary roles of the Black Panther. Do everything to preserve Wakanda and the mantle of Black Panther in the name of the fallen king, T'Challa. All that being done while trying to cope with their tech falling into the wrong hands (which was inevitable).
It's a good storyline if they can execute it properly and give it time and attention.
Or, like I mentioned, BP2 takes place between IW and EG with the child being a toddler or baby ("chosen one" story). Then they could recast T'Challa for the 3rd movie that takes place several years after EG. But at this point, unless they start from scratch, they are "stuck" with Leticia being in the movie.
All movies in production are dealing with COVID right now. Delays are inevitable for anything going through filming or post-production for the next few months at least. BP2 has the added problem of dealing with the endless Leticia Wright drama (who is supposed to be the lead) and the trauma of having lost the main/title character. Normal issues with COVID would have been difficult enough.
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BrianLo
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Yes I agree, the issue isn't solely Chadwick, the issue is also Leticia the actress AND Killmonger is dead. Plus Black Panther at its heart is a family drama and potentially none of them will be in the third movie.
I like the multiverse angle. But I'd suggest not plucking another T'Challa out of it, but a different Killmonger. Michael B Jordan can buy more time for the kid to age up.
I like the multiverse angle. But I'd suggest not plucking another T'Challa out of it, but a different Killmonger. Michael B Jordan can buy more time for the kid to age up.
Jedijax719
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I've read in multiple places that Leticia was not at all spreading negativity on set. I've read that she has been very pleasant and that some things were taken WAY out of proportion.
I think the issue is how much time is needed for post-production and how much filming still needs to be done. Three months were devoted for filming of the first film (Jan. 21-April 19, 2017). Ten months were spent in post. One might think that more time is needed for BP2 due to underwater Atlantis being a major part of the film. Thus, even if they completely wrapped filming, they'd likely STILL need more time than they have before a November release.
And not one but two superhero movies with Atlantis as a major setpiece are scheduled within a month of each other (BP2 and Aqua2). That's not to mention the water-based behemoth that will be Avatar 2. Within the course of 6-7 months we will see FOUR ocean based films, all of which are almost guaranteed to make a billion world wide (BP2, Aquaman 2, Avatar 2, and Little Mermaid).
I predict that Aquaman will move to March, 2023 and BP2 will either take the spot of GOTG3 (moving GOTG3 to July and Antman3 to November) or be delayed a whole year to November, 2023 (in the currently unannounced November MCU date). The presumed occupant of that spot is Blade, but there's been no official announcement.
I think the issue is how much time is needed for post-production and how much filming still needs to be done. Three months were devoted for filming of the first film (Jan. 21-April 19, 2017). Ten months were spent in post. One might think that more time is needed for BP2 due to underwater Atlantis being a major part of the film. Thus, even if they completely wrapped filming, they'd likely STILL need more time than they have before a November release.
And not one but two superhero movies with Atlantis as a major setpiece are scheduled within a month of each other (BP2 and Aqua2). That's not to mention the water-based behemoth that will be Avatar 2. Within the course of 6-7 months we will see FOUR ocean based films, all of which are almost guaranteed to make a billion world wide (BP2, Aquaman 2, Avatar 2, and Little Mermaid).
I predict that Aquaman will move to March, 2023 and BP2 will either take the spot of GOTG3 (moving GOTG3 to July and Antman3 to November) or be delayed a whole year to November, 2023 (in the currently unannounced November MCU date). The presumed occupant of that spot is Blade, but there's been no official announcement.
Understandable but if I were told we are goind to pay you a bunch of money until we get the storyline back on stream Id be “where do I stand and what do I say?”
Jedijax719
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But they're not going to do this with this movie. There's too much riding on it and fans will appreciate them taking their time. They know how sensitive things are with Chad's passing and Leticia's controversy to rush things out just to meet an arbitrary deadline. ESPECIALLY considering that the water locale themes will be overlapping if all 3 movies come out as planned (BP2, Aqua2, Avatar 2). They can juggle things.
ETA I just realized that Iron Heart is supposed to be coming to D+ in 2022 or early 2023. At the latest, it will arrive in the fall of 2023. She will be introduced in BP2 which means that BP2 will have to come out before Iron Heart premiers on D+.
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Disney Irish
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Exactly, Blank Panther is a title/mantle not a person. T'Challa took over Blank Panther from his father. Heck, Killmonger took it over, even though it was short lived, in the first film.
Whatever they do whether its Shuri, some mysterious son that shows up out of nowhere, or someone else I trust Feige will do what is needed to move the story along plus honor Boseman.
That would actually be the best story line, as its what they've already done when T'Challa took over from his father. So the audience, even those that aren't comic book readers, can understand its how the process is done, from Father to Son (or daughter in some cases).
Letitia Wright returns to Black Panther II set months after accident
Actress Letitia Wright broke her shoulder and suffered concussion when a stunt went wrong in August.
www.bbc.com
Jedijax719
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An even strange scenario would be if Killmonger had a son. But then again, that child would be no older than T'Challa's son. KM killed his only known alleged "girlfriend" in the first movie.
Beat me to it. Let's see where things go from here. It's hopeful at least.Letitia Wright returns to Black Panther II set months after accident
Actress Letitia Wright broke her shoulder and suffered concussion when a stunt went wrong in August.
"Separately, sources say Winston Duke, who plays M’Baku, negotiated a hefty raise for his return to Black Panther, due to what is being described as an expanded role in the Panther mythos. What that expansion looks like is unclear.'
www.hollywoodreporter.com
‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ to Resume Filming Next Week With Letitia Wright
The actor, who was injured in August, will be back on set in Atlanta.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Jedijax719
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There are still rumors about Jordan coming back for BP2. Unlike Tobey and Andrew coming in for Spidey, this has created a lot of controversy for those who have heard about it. Some have mentioned the multiverse which, to be honest, goes against the nature and feel of the Black Panther world.
Some have mentioned the ancestral plane, but why he and not T'Challa? (other than the real reasons)
So here is an idea I saw. The world of Atlantis is supposed to be heavily featured. And Killmonger requested to be "buried" at sea. What if the Atlantians come across Killmonger's body and use dark magic to revive him as an enemy against Wakanda? And what if Killmonger's new revival causes him to become sympathetic and protective? This puts Wakanda in a predicament because they see their former deadly nemesis as someone they may be able to trust. Michael B is a HUGE name and kind of an "it" guy in Hollywood right now. He doesn't even have to become the Black Panther. He may simply end up redeeming himself by protecting T'Challa's child and may be shown to forgive the family for the atrocities against his father.
Could be an interesting plot and could show the struggle for forgiveness and redemption.
That said, I have a feeling they may actually end up going with Nakia for the mantle of Black Panther and have Shuri stick with the science aspect. Lupita N'yongo is someone they can easily stick with for the long run until they have the son take over eventually. I think the aura and vibe she gives off will make everyone the most satisfied. There are rumors of them having to re-do the ending due to events of the past few months. I think whoever takes up the mantle will do so at the end of the film to set up a third one.
Some have mentioned the ancestral plane, but why he and not T'Challa? (other than the real reasons)
So here is an idea I saw. The world of Atlantis is supposed to be heavily featured. And Killmonger requested to be "buried" at sea. What if the Atlantians come across Killmonger's body and use dark magic to revive him as an enemy against Wakanda? And what if Killmonger's new revival causes him to become sympathetic and protective? This puts Wakanda in a predicament because they see their former deadly nemesis as someone they may be able to trust. Michael B is a HUGE name and kind of an "it" guy in Hollywood right now. He doesn't even have to become the Black Panther. He may simply end up redeeming himself by protecting T'Challa's child and may be shown to forgive the family for the atrocities against his father.
Could be an interesting plot and could show the struggle for forgiveness and redemption.
That said, I have a feeling they may actually end up going with Nakia for the mantle of Black Panther and have Shuri stick with the science aspect. Lupita N'yongo is someone they can easily stick with for the long run until they have the son take over eventually. I think the aura and vibe she gives off will make everyone the most satisfied. There are rumors of them having to re-do the ending due to events of the past few months. I think whoever takes up the mantle will do so at the end of the film to set up a third one.
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Jedijax719
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As much as I would LOVE to see this out in 2022, it is time to officially find a nice home in 2023 for this movie. Just move it to July and bump Ant-Man 3 to November 2023.
screenrant.com
Black Panther 2 Filming Reportedly Delayed (Again)
The film has suffered multiple delays.
screenrant.com
Jedijax719
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Every update makes it clearer that this will not make the November 2022 release date.
www.cbr.com
REPORT: Black Panther 2 Set to Film in Puerto Rico
A report suggests filming for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, which was originally scheduled to wrap soon, will continue in Puerto Rico.
www.cbr.com