BLACK PANTHER huge hit!

the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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danlb_2000 said:
I don't believe the contract would allow Universal to put Marvel attractions in another gate in Florida. The contract gave them the option to build elsewhere but they did not exercise that option so they have lost it. I think this would also apply to another gate in Florida. Either way, nothing in the contract says that Universal must continue to expand on Marvel, only that they have to properly maintain what they have built.
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You could make the case BP would be tied to the Fantastic Four Family because he first appeared there.
 
righttrack

righttrack

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smile said:
why doesn't anybody seem to talk about how marvel had already started to explode before the disney purchase? uni had a part in that.

a lot of talk here makes it seem like twdc lifted marvel out the muck and made them into something when, in actuality, the ball had already starting rolling...
spiderman had an immensely popular world-class attraction that helped 3 HUGE movies and iron man had come out the year before - granted, twdc took it to another level, but still
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I think the Sam Raimi/Sony Spiderman movies got the ball rolling, no question. This was the modern superhero movie archetype. You had tremendous talent playing the roles, a very interesting director talented and not yet found his big break (sure the Evil Dead movies are phenomenal, I love them). Those movies raised the bar. I don't think the ride played that much of a role, but once the movies got going the ride just got bigger and bigger in terms of popularity. Not taking anything away from Uni. The Amazing Spiderman ride is still one of the best in Orlando. Disney is curating the Marvel properties well though. Better than I had expected them to.
 
smile

smile

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righttrack said:
I think the Sam Raimi/Sony Spiderman movies got the ball rolling, no question. This was the modern superhero movie archetype. You had tremendous talent playing the roles, a very interesting director talented and not yet found his big break (sure the Evil Dead movies are phenomenal, I love them). Those movies raised the bar. I don't think the ride played that much of a role, but once the movies got going the ride just got bigger and bigger in terms of popularity. Not taking anything away from Uni. The Amazing Spiderman ride is still one of the best in Orlando. Disney is curating the Marvel properties well though. Better than I had expected them to.
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i happen to think the notoriety of the ride, which came out in '99 was the first thing to really make spidey 'relevant' again in the mainstream - the movies followed three years later... at the very least, it didn't hurt and reminded execs there was still love for spidey... what was the last thing of merit spidey-related had before the ride emerged? the 60's cartoon and the comics... that's it
 
The_Jobu

The_Jobu

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smile said:
i happen to think the notoriety of the ride, which came out in '99 was the first thing to really make spidey 'relevant' again in the mainstream - the movies followed three years later... at the very least, it didn't hurt and reminded execs there was still love for spidey... what was the last thing of merit spidey-related had before the ride emerged? the 60's cartoon and the comics... that's it
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The 90s cartoon was awesome!
 
Bender123

Bender123

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righttrack said:
I think the Sam Raimi/Sony Spiderman movies got the ball rolling, no question. This was the modern superhero movie archetype. You had tremendous talent playing the roles, a very interesting director talented and not yet found his big break (sure the Evil Dead movies are phenomenal, I love them). Those movies raised the bar. I don't think the ride played that much of a role, but once the movies got going the ride just got bigger and bigger in terms of popularity. Not taking anything away from Uni. The Amazing Spiderman ride is still one of the best in Orlando. Disney is curating the Marvel properties well though. Better than I had expected them to.
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Cough...X-Men...Cough...
 
Bender123

Bender123

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smile said:
that's right - totally forgot about that one



true, xmen in 2000, spidey in 2002 -
just find it hard to believe there's no correlation that those two were featured prominently in ioa... like i've said, nothing else it didn't hurt
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Well...Spiderman has been the largest Marvel draw for decades. It didn't take the movies to change that and the XMen were in five of the top ten comic sales slots for the 90s. It didn't take the movies to show they were a top draw.
 
smile

smile

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Bender123 said:
Well...Spiderman has been the largest Marvel draw for decades
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yeah, but they didn't make the jump for decades, did they?
comics alone weren't breaking that glass ceiling for marvel... dc had broken thru with their inferior comics, because they had phenom film franchises

... which is precisely why marvel was in big trouble in the mid/late 90s and dc was not
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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righttrack said:
The IPs inspire attractions but they aren't the attraction themselves. Sure it's a "theme park" and from that flows the creative drive and story for those visiting. I don't see a reason why WDW wouldn't want access to the Marvel IP. For right now, it's licensed elsewhere and the fees they make are a hedge on their own park business. If Universal is doing better than they are in Florida, then they still have that cash flow. If not, they're still getting that cash flow. Long-term, I'm sure when the licensing is up for renewal, WDW is going to ask for a lot more. They've developed these properties beyond their wildest dreams. They've had many successful movies and introduced these characters not only to a younger audience but even to an older audience to whom they were less accessible as merely comic book characters.
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Marvel as an entity still exists. The deal is between Marvel and Universal, not Universal and Walt Disney World. If Disney was as concerned about theme park licensing deals as people here make them out to be, Islands of Adventure would be the only non-Disney park with Marvel.
 
Po'Rich

Po'Rich

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elchippo said:
So can we assume that “Wakanda” will move into AK in the coming years? A follow up announcement after SWL and when Pandora’s newness has worn off and it’s AK’s turn again for big news?
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Ugh. NO. Put it in Tomorrowland if you must, but Wakanda would be out-of-keeping with the theme of Animal Kingdom.
 
bhg469

bhg469

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marni1971 said:
The majority of River Adventure is currently an embarrassment I’ll give it that. Personally I think Toon and MSHI look great but that’s what’s so nice about opinions.

At the risk of going way off topic surely the next project should be one of the Es planned for Seuss. With Potter getting another E the balance will tip too far away from that corner of the park.

Did I just call the new coaster an E? Oops.

And the next E after that will tip the balance ever further away from Seuss.

I’ll shut up now.
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Don't you ever shut up!!! Your hints keep me coming back.
 
spock8113

spock8113

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"Big Hit", "Blockbuster" I love these terms, but they're all based on take or the money brought in to the box office.

Every year movies get more and more expensive to make and that is passed on where tickets for movie-goers gets more and more expensive. Proportionately and logically, movies take in more and more money. The movies aren’t getting more and more betterer.
They think we’re stupid and that how much money a movie makes is a reflection on its quality. Just not so, but believe it if you will.

I suggest, and put towards the movie-makers, that they simply post actual total ticket sales. I’m guessing they won’t do that because it will show that there really hasn’t been a huge variation of who pays to see a movie.

I bet the comparison of budget and ticket sales between Jaws and John Carter would be glaring.
 
networkpro

networkpro

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spock8113 said:
"Big Hit", "Blockbuster" I love these terms, but they're all based on take or the money brought in to the box office.

Every year movies get more and more expensive to make and that is passed on where tickets for movie-goers gets more and more expensive. Proportionately and logically, movies take in more and more money. The movies aren’t getting more and more betterer.

I bet the comparison of budget and ticket sales between Jaws and John Carter would be glaring.
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I guess you believe that movies and professional sports aren't just entertainment.
 
Frankiepopsicles

Frankiepopsicles

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marni1971 said:
The majority of River Adventure is currently an embarrassment I’ll give it that. Personally I think Toon and MSHI look great but that’s what’s so nice about opinions.

At the risk of going way off topic surely the next project should be one of the Es planned for Seuss. With Potter getting another E the balance will tip too far away from that corner of the park.

Did I just call the new coaster an E? Oops.

And the next E after that will tip the balance ever further away from Seuss.

I’ll shut up now.
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I am hoping the next E will be the rumoured Ministry Of Magic Attraction
 

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