Biometric finger readers unsanitary???

[mousermerf]

No... in hospitals they wash their hands frequently removing any "dirt" and then also use the hand sanitizer. Hand sanitizers are approved for medical use, not food prep use because of the grease.

 

[loriwdunn]

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[mousermerf]

Lori, Merlin is wrong and just wont admit it.

 

[peter11435]

What do you mean? I didn't read this on the internet. I've spent months 24/7 at Columbia after my first daughters heart surgery and my second daughter was in the NICU. I'm not kidding...they use purell foam. They even have counters to keep track of how often they are used above the soap dispensers.

I didn't mean that. I meant don't believe that Purell has been found to be ineffective against germs simply because you read it on an internet message board. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

[Merlin]

No... in hospitals they wash their hands frequently removing any "dirt" and then also use the hand sanitizer. Hand sanitizers are approved for medical use, not food prep use because of the grease.

That's like washing my hands frequently, then pouring salt on my hands and saying that salt is an excellent hand sanitizer! :lol: :lol:

 

[loriwdunn]

I didn't mean that. I meant don't believe that Purell has been found to be ineffective against germs simply because you read it on an internet message board. Sorry for the if I wasn't clear.

Oh...sorry...I was actually referring to merlin stating that they are ineffective.

 

[Merlin]

Oh...sorry...I was actually referring to merlin stating that they are ineffective.

They are ineffective when used alone. It was suggested that you'll be okay at a theme park, touching handrails, biometric scanners, etc all day long, as long as you "carry some hand sanitizer with you". The hand sanitizer alone is not going to kill most of the germs you'll be picking up. You need to also wash your hands frequently. It was also argued that Purell is "equivalent" to rubbing alcohol, which a simple reading of the labels will show is completely inaccurate.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Sorry to get on a bit of a soapbox here, but I absolutely applaud the spreading of germs to children. In my opinion, we are killing our immune systems by going this uber-germophobic route (and, yes, I do have a degree in biology, so I have some foundation to say that). It involves an understanding of infection and transfer. If you touch things, you get thousands of germs. If you eat things, you get thousands of germs. If you drink things, you get thousands of germs. There is absolutely merit to avoiding transmission, but there is a line. As much as you might try to avoid touching classic "touchables," you can't avoid all of them and probable touch ones inadvertently.

Just be intelligent...
1. Wash your hands before and after eating.
2. If you feel something odd (i.e. wet), wash your hands.
3. Keep your immune system up with Vitamin C and other elements. Fighting and infection before it starts is much more effective than trying to keep the little things from entering your body.
4. Keep yourself hydrated.
5. Keep an eye on those around you. If you notice someone sick, then up your caution. If the person in front of you isn't showing symptoms, take a breath!
6. Don't be super concerned about it. Hospitals have huge issues with it. In public, it is just a fact of nature.

Again, sorry for the soap box. Just a pet peeve! :hammer:

 

[Merlin]

Sorry to get on a bit of a soapbox here, but I absolutely applaud the spreading of germs to children. In my opinion, we are killing our immune systems by going this uber-germophobic route (and, yes, I do have a degree in biology, so I have some foundation to say that). It involves an understanding of infection and transfer. If you touch things, you get thousands of germs. If you eat things, you get thousands of germs. If you drink things, you get thousands of germs. There is absolutely merit to avoiding transmission, but there is a line. As much as you might try to avoid touching classic "touchables," you can't avoid all of them and probable touch ones inadvertently.

Just be intelligent...
1. Wash your hands before and after eating.
2. If you feel something odd (i.e. wet), wash your hands.
3. Keep your immune system up with Vitamin C and other elements. Fighting and infection before it starts is much more effective than trying to keep the little things from entering your body.
4. Keep yourself hydrated.
5. Keep an eye on those around you. If you notice someone sick, then up your caution. If the person in front of you isn't showing symptoms, take a breath!
6. Don't be super concerned about it. Hospitals have huge issues with it. In public, it is just a fact of nature.

Again, sorry for the soap box. Just a pet peeve! :hammer:

Excellent post!! I agree 100%!!

 

[ofquietstars]

Maybe this would work better?

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You beat me to it. :lol:

 

[LESLIECOOL]

OK... so here's my opinion..... There are thousands upon thousands of people who visit WDW every day. There are little kids who pick their noses (adults too), people who use the bathroom and don't wash their hands, etc. then they ride the same train as you on big thunder mountain and you touch their handle bar after they come off the ride. Guess what.....germs!! Enjoy your vacation and go through the finger print reader like the adult that you are. Unless you have a plastic bubble ... welcome to the world of e.coli, strep and all of those good things. I have never thought of germs on the finger reader, I just can't wait to get in and enjoy my day!

 

[Merlin]

OK... so here's my opinion..... There are thousands upon thousands of people who visit WDW every day. There are little kids who pick their noses (adults too), people who use the bathroom and don't wash their hands, etc. then they ride the same train as you on big thunder mountain and you touch their handle bar after they come off the ride. Guess what.....germs!! Enjoy your vacation and go through the finger print reader like the adult that you are. Unless you have a plastic bubble ... welcome to the world of e.coli, strep and all of those good things. I have never thought of germs on the finger reader, I just can't wait to get in and enjoy my day!

I hold my hands in the air on roller coasters. I never touch the safety bar. :hurl:

 

[Victoria]

Sorry to get on a bit of a soapbox here, but I absolutely applaud the spreading of germs to children. In my opinion, we are killing our immune systems by going this uber-germophobic route (and, yes, I do have a degree in biology, so I have some foundation to say that).Again, sorry for the soap box. Just a pet peeve! :hammer:

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! My parents took this same exact route with me and for that I am very thankful. I have a very good immune system and rarely get sick as a result. I work with children every day, get sneezed on, puked on, and coughed on and rarely ever catch anything worse than a few sniffles. I think there are far greater things to be worried about in life than a few germs on a doorknob, handrail, or biometric scanners for that matter. Just wash your hands with regular soap and water occassionally and you'll be in good shape. I, like Epcot82, appologize for the soapbox, but Purrell and germ-aphobics are also one of my pet peeves. If it were up to me there would be no Purell. It doesnt just kill the bad bacteria, it kills the good too...and yes there is good bacteria out there.

 

[peter11435]

It doesnt just kill the bad bacteria, it kills the good too...and yes there is good bacteria out there.

Excellent point that many people seem to forget.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Remember Kids, rubbing alcohol is flammable :wave:

 

[Merlin]

If it were up to me there would be no Purell. It doesnt just kill the bad bacteria, it kills the good too...and yes there is good bacteria out there.

I agree with you that Purell should be eliminated. But just for clarification, when you refer to the stuff that "kills the good germs too", that's not Purell that you're thinking of. You're thinking of antibacterial hand soap, which is different. Antibacterial hand soap is very bad and does more harm than good. The chemical it uses is triclosan, which should be avoided.

 

[speck76]

With all of the ways to spared germs today does anyone else think that the biometric finger readers are a way to spread germs faster? It does not seem like they are sanitized anyway after each use. I know that I feel uncomfortable using them especially when I see someone in front of me sneeze in their hands and then put their fingers into the reader. Yuck...Another reason that they should be gotten rid of...Any thoughts???<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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wash your hands after using...there are bathrooms near the entrance to each park.

 

[Jheyman]

:lookaroun Does anyone else see three pages of nearly pointless posts? Lets get back to something that has actual substance like a 5th gate or a monorail expansion.:lol:

 

[Merlin]

wash your hands after using...there are bathrooms near the entrance to each park.

:lol: I made a beeline to the restroom each time immediately after touching those scanners. YUCK!!

 

[peter11435]

Antibacterial hand soap is very bad and does more harm than good. The chemical it uses is triclosan, which should be avoided.

I agree 100%.