News Big Thunder Mountain to receive full retrack

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
It doesn’t entirely pass the smell test for me. I was told it will need to close for upwards of a year or 18 months at some point but this feels too soon and too long.

Maybe his bus drivers got their dates mixed up?

Seeing the two posts above makes me believe it will happen at some point in the next few years. I could see 12-18 months of downtime, but 3 years closed seems excessive.
 

Ayla

Well-Known Member
I had 2 sources come to me with this information within a short span of time. One, to protect their job, asked me not to share it, but the second said it was fine. It'll take nearly 3 years, and will result in a much smoother ride. It'll close likely in either July or early August with an announcement coming soon.
Sources are "coming" to a 14 year old kid with secret information about attractions? Sure.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
A retrack definitely shouldn't take more than a year and maybe a couple of months (going by DL's timeline which was longer than expected due to unforeseen issues). But with the added complications of possible Beyond Big Thunder infrastructure work, I dunno. I'm also kind of cynical and wouldn't put it past them to drag things out for an unnecessarily long time. Though three years does seem absurd regardless of what they might do. The train was admittedly closed for an alarmingly long time, even factoring in Covid...
 

Stupido

Well-Known Member
AFAIK new track and rollingstock is happening, though this timeline is a bit earlier than what I've heard.

The timeline as shared with me was 18 months for retrack and "show improvements," with another year or so of sitework. I don't believe the ride will be closed for the full 3 years, but rather that work in the immediate area will take that long.

Re: SM vs BTM being retracked first. Space indeed needs it, but BTM's condition is visible to guests. It sounds like SM could go down as soon as BTM comes back online, if not sooner.

The thing about deferred maintenance...

Any word on these "show improvements" being explosive? 🤔 🤔
 

Dcgc28

Member
3 years doesn’t sound true. Work being done to BTM isn’t shocking though. I got laughed and questioned like crazy in the other thread about the expansion. But I’m telling you guys, Big Thunder is being discussed like crazy and it could be rethemed. As I said over there not saying I think it will be but Disney isn’t afraid to shove IP down our throats and I don’t think any ride is safe personally.
 

fgmnt

Well-Known Member
3 years doesn’t sound true. Work being done to BTM isn’t shocking though. I got laughed and questioned like crazy in the other thread about the expansion. But I’m telling you guys, Big Thunder is being discussed like crazy and it could be rethemed. As I said over there not saying I think it will be but Disney isn’t afraid to shove IP down our throats and I don’t think any ride is safe personally.
Might be some wires crossed, I can see some kind of adjacent sitework related to northwestern expansion taking 3 years but 3 years on a retrack sounds borderline irresponsible; like it might be more economically viable to tear it down and rebuild it than just retrack it.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
Not sure why it would need new trains, every part on a train running currently has been replaced countless times since opening, and getting new trains would mean losing the grandfathered safety system which would mean the ride would need individual lap bars, backrests, etc making the trains much heavier. New track makes sense, but new trains does not, you just rebuild trains slowly over time.
 

Brian

Well-Known Member
I had 2 sources come to me with this information within a short span of time. One, to protect their job, asked me not to share it, but the second said it was fine. It'll take nearly 3 years, and will result in a much smoother ride. It'll close likely in either July or early August with an announcement coming soon.
You do you, but if someone tells you not to share the information, the last thing you should do is post it on a public site like this, even if someone else said it's fine. Ignoring their request is a quick way to ensure they're not your source anymore, especially if they lose their job as a result. These things often have a small team who knows what's going on initially, so it's not really not very hard for the Company to figure out who leaked, and believe me when I say that they do not take kindly to leaks like this. One must be very judicious with what information they share and when.

I'm not as well informed as some around here, but I still hear things from time to time from my colleagues I kept in touch with over the years, and nine out of 10 times, I won't say a word publicly. If someone else wants to leak it, that's their prerogative, but I'm not going to be the one to potentially cost a friend their job.

Disney announces things when they feel it is most advantageous to do so. Getting ahead of them is at one's own peril.
 

TheCoasterNerd

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
In the Parks
No
The first source had less information than the 2nd, and the majority of the information exclusive to the first I didn't share. The first was a CM.
The 2nd was WDI. See why I felt one had more permission to tell me what I could/couldn't share?
 

Drew the Disney Dude

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Just because @TheCoasterNerd is a teenager doesn't mean he doesn't know things, he follows the parks very closely and and knows what's going on. I do believe that sooner than later we are going to see it close for the track to be completely replaced, and that it's going to take well over a year.

Logically speaking here, I would not be surprised at all for them to take it offline for the re-track and to also prepare the areas around it before Beyond Big Thunder after Big Thunder itself reopens. It would only make sense to do both at once.
 

Brian

Well-Known Member
The first source had less information than the 2nd, and the majority of the information exclusive to the first I didn't share. The first was a CM.
The 2nd was WDI. See why I felt one had more permission to tell me what I could/couldn't share?
The only people authorized to share information of this nature publicly are executives and PR. Anyone else is taking a gamble with their job, and in some larger cases, gambling things far beyond that.

ETA: Forgive me if this all comes across as a lecture; it's not intended to be that way. I'd just hate for you or anyone to unintentionally cost anyone their livelihood.
 

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