EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
I really wanted an R-rated Alien Encounter movie.
They did. It was called "Alien".
:lol:
I really wanted an R-rated Alien Encounter movie.
Just to make everyone feel better the old ToT movie was a Wonderful World of Disney Special. not a Disney Channel Original Movie. Whatever brad it was from, it was still amusing, if not the greatest thing Disney ever did. I'll take it over HSM anyday.
A new ToT movie? I thought they had to finish Jungle Cruise first?
Yeah, that's what I thought too.. Anyone know?
I think it is a horrible idea. For one there would be tons of confusion with purchases and rentals. People would be getting the two movies confused all the time and the Tower of Terror does not need a boost of attendance. I am in agreeance that it shows the lack of creativity when you need to go back and make movies based off of theme park attractions.
Not to mention, the most fun thing about the Tower of Terror as far as the theme goes is the fact that it is an original story, and makes people feel like they are inside the Twilight Zone, and in return it was never even a real episode. That is pure Disney Magic.
Not that this is saying much, but the first Tower of Terror movie was better than the Haunted Mansion movie in my opinion.
I agree with several of the thing said here. I'll go further: make it in black and white, and set within the same structure as a Twilight Zone episode. Obviously substance (script, dialogue, character development, acting, etc.) trump the style (cinematography, narration style, music, etc.), but I still think that could really influence the movie.
By the way, perhaps the term "erected" is a poor choice for creating a film. I really thought there was going to be a large screen built somewhere near the attraction. :shrug:
As do I, for what it was. Of course, I remember watching it during the "Vault Disney" era, when it would be followed with the classic, archival content that constituted said programming block. Thems were good tymes. Ye olden days. Pre-2002. :lookaroun
The Jungle Cruise movie has staled. There is no offical word on the current status of the project.
I don't know if anyone has stated this yet. If they have, then I fully agree but...
What made Pirates of the Caribbean was the director, the producers, and the fact that it was published as a Gore Verbinski and Jerry Bruckheimer movie. Haunted Mansion, Country Bears, they all played it too safe. When Disney knew they could put their logo safely in front of Pirates of the Caribbean, they did so in the second one, but never did you see it advertised as "Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean" Take a look at the teaser for the first movie. It doesn't seem like a Disney movie at all. You ONLY see Disney's logo at the bottom right hand corner during the credits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T--w5DGclsM
The second movie, however, uses Disney's logo first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40jO2JJKnO8
If Tower of Terror were to be made, it needs to have the same type of people working on it, and Disney needs to make it appeal to Young Adults and Adults; the people who ride this ride. They can't baby it, they can't incorporate humor in it in a fashion that takes away from the darkness of the movie, they need to keep true to what Twilight Zone is about, and what the ride represents; the haunting of a historical tower.
Haunted Mansion was limited because they took the reasons for Pirates of the Caribbean's success too literally. The Haunted Mansion ride was built on MANY different ideas and concepts, most of which never saw the light of day, unfortunately. But take a look at this excerpt from Wikipedia (click here to read all of the story) about the attraction:
"Marc Davis and Claude Coats, two of the mansion's main designers, were in a constant argument over whether the ride should be scary or funny. Claude, who had a life of a background artist, made moody surroundings like endless hallways, corridors of doors, and characterless environments, wanted to make a scary adventure. Marc, who designed most of the characters and zany spooks, thought that the ride should be classic Disney silly and full of gags. In the end both got their way when X [Atencia] put all the scenes together."
They inserted an actor to add the mansion's comedy to the movie (like Jack Sparrow to Pirates) Thus giving our adaptation of humor and horror, just like Pirates was.... kinda (skeletons and drunk pirates)... It works as a ride... but just barely. As a movie, people couldn't get past Eddie Murphy's corny lines. There was SO much horror in it, the comedy didn't fit. The movie just became a joke.
It may have been much better if they did a version of the movie with the Victorian Haunted Mansion and didn't have young kids, and no Eddie Murphy, and possibly did an adaptation of scenes from The Phantom Manor story and music and our NEW Haunted Mansion storyline, with Constance. OR they could do an adaptation of the original designs that Yale Gracey and Rolly Crump made (The seacaptain and his wife). Or perhaps they could do an adaptation of the house that inspired Walt in the first place, Winchester Mystery House. There were so many ideas, I really don't know why Disney decided on the one they did, they just reached too many dead ends, no pun intended. Also, their score wasn't great at all save for the opening song and the main Haunted Mansion theme. Pirates created an amazing score for each movie that really makes you get into the movie even more.
Perhaps one day we will see a new idea for The Haunted Mansion movie, and Disney will realize who to go to in order to get a good script, producers, and director.
Anyway, back to Twilight Zone
I actually think they would do much better if they designed either a new story like they did for Japan's version of the ride, or if they incorporated small things from the different versions of the ride while creating a new idea of the story, that way they don't have so much of a copyright problem. Creative people need to work on this, and not make a literal representation of the ride itself. And most importantly, Disney has to learn that if they don't put "Disney's" in front of it, people might actually take it more seriously. I think this could be a great project for Dreamworks; look at Sweeney Todd. Some might not like the movie adaptation, but it is the FIRST musical movie I have seen that works as a suspense thriller (Screw Repo: The Genetic Opera, what a joke). The singing didn't take away from the darkness of the film and really made you take a deep breath, think "Wow" and enjoy Tim Burton and Stephen Sondheim's version of the story.
POINT IS... if you're gonna skip everything else I've said in this article, Disney needs to choose a good production team, a great script, no BS and cutting corners, and no silliness. This is a dark, paranormal story that needs to be treated like it was written; a suspense mystery. No older sisters with grudges on their more popular siblings, no comedic actors, no family's with children. These ghosts drop people down their haunted elevators to their deaths. We, the audience, must enter limbo (or The Twlight Zone) WITH these characters and take the plunge.
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