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News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?
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James Alucobond
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If I’m remembering correctly, I think it was most recently an area with a festival kiosk, some strand lights, and a playground. Searching for “EPCOT rose walk” should give you some past views.
Epcot81Fan
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#absolutelyremarkable
#bestepcotever
aladdin2007
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agree loving that set of lights, more please.
Poseidon Quest
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Honestly, don't let other people's opinions hamper what you enjoy, some people are just too cynical to allow others to have fun.
Also, I'm not sure if you've heard of it, but there's a great chain of parks out there called Six Flags. They have all kinds of poorly landscaped parks and there's statues of Bugs Bunny where you can point at it and stuff. If you like what Disney is serving park goers now, then I think that Six Flags might be right up your alley.
_caleb
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So those triangular panels with the v-shaped nook are painted with a colored gradient to be visible in the daytime, but will light up at night, right?
Will the lights inside be color-changing? If so, how will the painted color affect how it displays at night? Will the LEDs need to adjust in order to make the green-painted pocket appear, say yellow?
Will the lights inside be color-changing? If so, how will the painted color affect how it displays at night? Will the LEDs need to adjust in order to make the green-painted pocket appear, say yellow?
SaucyBoy
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I went to my first Six Flags park this summer, La Ronde in Montreal, and Disney World on its worse day is leaps and bounds better than that cesspool. I’ll never set foot in a Six Flags park again after that experience. Anyone who says Disney is becoming Six Flags level is living in a literal Fantasyland
_caleb
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About fan standards for Epcot: I think it's less about what Epcot actually was back in the 80's and 90's, and more about the experience the park provided guests at the time.
For years, they left the park the way it was and because the world kept changing, the park was less and less able to deliver that experience.
Now, as they make changes, I'm pretty sure they're not trying to deliver that original experience to modern audiences. They're trying to deliver a different (many here might say lesser) experience.
The experience it gives modern audiences can't be compared to the experience it gave past audiences. Why? Because legacy fans view the past through nostalgic lenses, while newer fans cannot fathom what it was like to experience Epcot in 1988.
At this point, we can only imagine what Disney could possibly do to try to deliver that classic Epcot experience to today's audiences.
For years, they left the park the way it was and because the world kept changing, the park was less and less able to deliver that experience.
Now, as they make changes, I'm pretty sure they're not trying to deliver that original experience to modern audiences. They're trying to deliver a different (many here might say lesser) experience.
The experience it gives modern audiences can't be compared to the experience it gave past audiences. Why? Because legacy fans view the past through nostalgic lenses, while newer fans cannot fathom what it was like to experience Epcot in 1988.
At this point, we can only imagine what Disney could possibly do to try to deliver that classic Epcot experience to today's audiences.
Incomudro
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You're guessing that I think garish, tasteless, flashing Christmas displays on residential homes to be attractive.
You guessed very wrong.
I like simple, tasteful, miniature home Christmas lights - preferably only white lights, but I'll accept red & white.
Coupled with wreaths makes a nice touch.
Bocabear
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Commercial Christmas decor design has been my job for the last 35 years. People always ask me about what I do at home...lol I can do wild stuff for commercial clients, but at home I like simple classic things... We bought a mid century modern house a few years back and I changed my very very traditional style to silver and white with a red and silver checked ribbon...sounds awful but it is very pretty and simple and sweet... No flashing color changing animated lights for me...
Rich Brownn
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It amazes me that people think a park that was once unique, featuring things that had never been done before and expansive pavilions is better being slowly turned into Magic Kingdom 2.0 with a park
_caleb
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But that works both ways, doesn’t it? Someone might just as well respond with, “It amazes me that people think a park that featured things that have been done over and over by museums, malls, and office parks was better than this vibrant, inviting respite from the cares of the world.” or something?
These days, I’m just resigned to the fact that different people respond to different things. That feeling we used to get from Epcot back in the 90s? Some people get something different, yet still compelling from what’s there today.
That would be my guess, that at night the lights would be adjusted for whatever color a particular triangle panel is painted to give off the desired color. As long as the entire inside of the panel is painted (and it looks like it is), it should work.
ChrisFL
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It's the question I've asked myself before and lots of people have gone into on other threads here as well...........SHOULD Disney try to make a modern EPCOT Center...the park that gave us a preview of the 21st century, but once we get to the 21st century...and we've actually been there for 23 years (and that makes me feel old)....Disney would need to recapture an era that isn't unique anymore. Honestly by the 90's it was already clear they didn't know how they were going to keep up/follow up the original ideas.
........but this is a discussion for another dozen threads
looks like a dedicated kiosk/food area. Hopefully some good additions for the various festivalsLighting and railing have been installed in the area near the Imagination Pavilion - photos from today.
Here's another look at the lighting from the bridge leading to World Showcase.
ToTBellHop
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I find it difficult to truly compare to something 30 or 40 years ago, but I enjoy all of the parks more than 10 years ago. That’s probably the most important metric for me.
On the other hand, I find planning a WDW vacation to be more stressful than ever. There’s no need for that and it should be examined.
I’m an anatomy and physiology professor and would like to have my school fund a field trip for an anatomy lesson with that World Celebration planter. We can’t afford cadavers but that planter is large enough for all 24 students to see. And that, indeed, is absolutely remarkable. We will follow that up with Journey Into Imagination, which literally includes an eye model of which I have six copies in my lab. And you thought edutainment was dead!
How are the new lights doing?
On the other hand, I find planning a WDW vacation to be more stressful than ever. There’s no need for that and it should be examined.
I’m an anatomy and physiology professor and would like to have my school fund a field trip for an anatomy lesson with that World Celebration planter. We can’t afford cadavers but that planter is large enough for all 24 students to see. And that, indeed, is absolutely remarkable. We will follow that up with Journey Into Imagination, which literally includes an eye model of which I have six copies in my lab. And you thought edutainment was dead!
How are the new lights doing?
Epcot82Guy
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I agree that's an important metric. But, I think there is some level of fallacy in the comparison statement. It's not that difficult to compare MK to 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, etc. There have certainly been changes. But, they have largely evolved the park, keeping the central idea and mission in tact. Epcot and Studios have seen those ideas be totally overhauled, so the parks today are trying to accomplish a very different goal and story than they did originally. Again, progress and growth is awesome. However, there is a difference between progress and change.
I'm glad you are seeing parks as better than they were in 2014. I think others disagree. However, I think most of us who disagree year for a version of the parks where the same money was invested - but they kept the ideas/stories/etc. that worked and built upon them. Rather than focusing on the cross-synergy pitch in virtually every detail on property and/or outsourcing to third parties who create "fine" but relatively generic outputs often. Those are things you can compare to previous versions of Disney and the Parks quite easily, even through rosy lenses.
ToTBellHop
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Of course that’s fair as an ideological discussion that most of us engage in while not actually on vacation. I’m just saying DHS and Epcot, in particular, are more fun than 10 years ago. Of course, I might’ve spent the money differently. But I still think RotR and Cosmic Rewind are a lot of fun.
Epcot82Guy
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I should clarify - I can get behind that Studios opinion easily. It's still an underbuilt park. But, it has added a lot more in thsoe 10 years.
I personally think Epcot is a different story. But, much of that is just how poorly this improvement project has turned out for the cost vs. what could have been done (and I think more universally applauded, especially from a story standpoint). The park needed help desperately 10 years ago. I just find the things that were done helped some things and hurt others. It's at best a net neutral if not slightly negative.