News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

Chef idea Mickey`=

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I have not mentioned it here but the fact of the new music and this area World Celebration having it's version to me the vibe doesn't go with it at all... unless if your looking at the planter and how it's formation was created by mother nature imaging 🤮😐 such underwhelming place for a new soundtrack piece of music that sound more futuresque than World especially if played in this area!.
 

mastromjm

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In the Parks
Yes
True..
Mickey is a Magician at MK
Sorcerer at DHS
Safari Gear at AK...
Epcot....Eh we have over 175 different outfits for him let's be as lazy as Communicore Hall and use what we have..
I agree that Mickey & friends should be meetable in thematically appropriate clothing at Epcot but because of the way meet-and-greets have been operating for the last 15 or so years there is only ONE specific place in each park to meet Mickey & friends. I guess it was decided Epcot would be the park for Mickey, Minnie & Goofy to have their regular outfits. I do remember a time not super long ago where you could not meet Donald in his sailor suit ANYWHERE.

Wish there was more spontaneity to the whole character thing, but operations does not want it for the same reason they were so indifferent to the idea of a Magic Kingdom night parade for many years - crowd control.
 

Mickeynerd17

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My hometown recently renovated one of its high schools. The similarity to the new Communicore is uncanny.

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I love how in attempting to make EPCOT more "timeless", they built Communicore Hall with the most trendy design choices they could have possibly made.

Using similar architecture to the rest of future world would have made this building a lot more timeless since it's been almost 50 years since the epcot architecture was "trendy."
 

Incomudro

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Case in point......They were never clear about what these "futuristic" outfits represented..
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I met this Micky in Epcot back then, and my girlfriend of the time took my picture with him.
I was around 26 years old.
I really wish I still had the picture.
 

MagicEye99

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I've put together a straightforward plan for TWDC/WDI to "fix" Future World - everything here can and should be implemented by EPCOT 50, and imo, nothing on this list is a stretch (steps are in order of priority):

Step 1: Repaint the Imagination pavilion, fix the jumping fountains, wash the glass pyramids. Then, gut the current version of the ride, and use one of the many fantastic proposals that have been suggested here to restore JII as closely as possible to the original ride - many of these proposals even use the current track layout and the creative use of a preshow to simulate the original turntable sequence. Put a new film in the Magic Eye Theater - it can be media-IP, doesn't matter, anything's gotta be better than Pixar Fest.

Step 2: Put Inside Out into WOL - create a version of Cranium Command using the movie as a basis. Fill the pavilion atrium with various flatrides and a couple of shows. Use of the Body Wars space is optional - could make the former queue space a meet and greet or something.

Step 3: Gotta address Mission: Space - I think there are two options here, and one is significantly easier than the other. First, rename the ride Horizons: Mission II. Then, you're gonna rework the queue to be heavy on the Horizons theming. The ride itself is going to use the same system, but a new film will take guests through space to Bravo Centauri, then to Nova Cite, Mesa Verde, and Sea Castle. Second option is to gut the ride and recreate some sort of sequel to Horizons - I think the first option is much more digestible and would breathe some new life into the pavilion.

Step 4: The Land is mostly fine, but can use a few tweaks. Inside, refresh the theming a bit - get the weather balloons moving again, add some life to the paint scheme (murals or something). Then, you're gonna scrap Awesome Planet, and replace it with Kitchen Kabaret 3D (or 4D). The whole thing can be a 3D (or 4D) film, and maybe just add a Bonnie Apettite animatronic into the theater for some depth. This is a nostalgia layup. Keep the carepeted walls in the lobby, but add some of the revue theming to evoke the old Kabaret lobby. The rest of the pavilion is good to go - maybe add the "Listen to the Land" song back and change the lyrics to "Living with the Land", another layup.

Step 5: The Seas can stay Nemo, that's fine. Just one change - get rid of most of the sets throughout the omnimover portion of the pavilion, and restore the view to the aquarium. You can even retain projections of Nemo characters throughout the entirety of the ride, similar to the ending portion of the current version. Instead of spouting mindless nonsense, the Nemo characters can educate guests about their fishy friends swimming around the Seas. SeaBase can stay the same, just clean it up a bit.

Step 6: Spaceship Earth needs attention, but I'd argue only from an infrastructure standpoint. Do NOT touch the show scenes - if anything, shut down the ride, fix the track, maybe bring in some new ride vehicles. Touch up the descent with some new scenes, and update the Global Neighborhood. The new cocktail lounge will round out the experience. That's it though.

Step 7 (Optional): Instead of using CommuniCore hall as a collegiate dining hall, throw a few exhibits in there that call back to the original CommuniCore/Innoventions. I really can't see them doing this, because they "need" festival space, but it's worth exploring - maybe only roll out exhibits during the offseason? Also, get rid of that stupid planter in the middle of the new spine and bring some sort of fountain back.

That just leaves Cosmic Rewind and Test Track. The latter is currently being fixed and should reflect what we all want, so I'm not going into details there. Cosmic Rewind is difficult - on one hand, it's currently based on a popular IP. But give it 10-15 years, and I'm not sure how culturally relevant GOTG will be. When the day comes to refresh the pavilion, I would create a spiritual successor to Adventure Through Inner Space - this is not my idea FYI. Rather than being teleported, guests are shrunk to the size of an atom. The ride itself is a whirlwind through atoms, culminating in a loop around the nucleus of an atom, rather than the moon like in the current version of the ride.

And that's about it. Best part, I think all of this can be done for a reasonable amount of $$$, and in just a few years MAX - maybe even before they break dirt on Coco at DCA. I'll take my check now, Disney.
 

OvertheHorizon

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Step 3: Gotta address Mission: Space - I think there are two options here, and one is significantly easier than the other. First, rename the ride Horizons: Mission II. Then, you're gonna rework the queue to be heavy on the Horizons theming. The ride itself is going to use the same system, but a new film will take guests through space to Bravo Centauri, then to Nova Cite, Mesa rde, and Sea Castle. Second option is to gut the ride and recreate some sort of sequel to Horizons - I think the first option is much more digestible and would breathe some new life into the pavilion.
As a fan of the original Horizons pavilion, I like this idea a lot. And the Space 220 restaurant would still fit nicely within this revised concept.
 

Dr.GrantSeeker

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As a fan of the original Horizons pavilion, I like this idea a lot. And the Space 220 restaurant would still fit nicely within this revised concept.
While I love this idea, I don't know if it would really help M:S. I don't ride it because it makes me sick. I've been on the green mission before but its just ok. I feel as though its the ride system that really needs to go. Keep Space 220 and get rid of M:S all together and do something epic for a space pavilion.
 

osian

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While I love this idea, I don't know if it would really help M:S. I don't ride it because it makes me sick. I've been on the green mission before but its just ok. I feel as though its the ride system that really needs to go. Keep Space 220 and get rid of M:S all together and do something epic for a space pavilion.
Nope. Doesn't make me sick. It should stay. It doesn't need "help" nor does it "really need to go".

If you don't like a ride, just don't ride it. Don't call for it to be removed, because other people might just like it. There are lots of rides I don't ride because I don't like them, but I'm not selfish enough to call for their demolition.
 

Bocabear

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Sadly it looks like they are finished with EPCOT for now... Lots of new horror for the MK...And a few new things for DHS...hopefully the new will not come with the cost of losing other things... It always baffles me how they seem to not get their own product....
oh well....
 

Haymarket2008

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Nope. Doesn't make me sick. It should stay. It doesn't need "help" nor does it "really need to go".

If you don't like a ride, just don't ride it. Don't call for it to be removed, because other people might just like it. There are lots of rides I don't ride because I don't like them, but I'm not selfish enough to call for their demolition.

The post you are replying to is just stating their opinion. They’re not saying anything personal about the people who like the attraction.

If you love it, that’s great! I also happen to think that it isn’t a very worthy attraction of EPCOT and I’d personally applaud its removal. Especially with what it replaced. But in today’s day and age, it would be filled with IP. So it’s IP-less existence is something I appreciate about it.

But to call someone selfish for expressing a simple opinion is a bit much.
 

osian

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The post you are replying to is just stating their opinion. They’re not saying anything personal about the people who like the attraction.

If you love it, that’s great! I also happen to think that it isn’t a very worthy attraction of EPCOT and I’d personally applaud its removal. Especially with what it replaced. But in today’s day and age, it would be filled with IP. So it’s IP-less existence is something I appreciate about it.

But to call someone selfish for expressing a simple opinion is a bit much.
It was only my opinion too. I'm sorry that you couldn't accept my opinion. And I didn't call anyone selfish, I specifically said that I'm not selfish.

I think your opinion on it is more reasonable though, you're thinking more about the integrity of the park, although I personally feel there are even less worthy attractions there that could be looked at first. And indeed while it is there, it is blocking IP, and that we should be grateful for. I think MS is a brilliant demonstration of the experience of travelling into space for the purposes of exploration and maybe even living up there or on other planets (though the ride as it stands is literally about training for that) and as such does work in Epcot. I like the idea of it being part of an expanded space pavilion, Horizons-esque, where it could be the thrill element of a multi-element pavilion, an exposition of how we could live in the future. Space 220 is already another element. I just don't think "(my opinion is that) it should be removed because I get sick on it" is a particularly well-argued point. Especially as we should be looking towards additions, not replacements, and using what is currently abandoned.
 
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Chef idea Mickey`=

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Sadly it looks like they are finished with EPCOT for now... Lots of new horror for the MK...And a few new things for DHS...hopefully the new will not come with the cost of losing other things... It always baffles me how they seem to not get their own product....
oh well....
The Epcot Walls for years will now be at Magic Kingdom. It going to be insane.
 

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