News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

Mickeynerd17

Well-Known Member
We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
The fountain and water are excellent.
Otherwise I prefer the new hub.
If only we could have both.
 

J4546

Well-Known Member
We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
that looks good but as well but I also like the new currrent area as well
 

Epcot81Fan

Well-Known Member
It’s almost like these defenders of these incredibly cheap, bland, and amateurish architectural designs have never been outside of Kissimmee.

Just walk through Vegas and you’ll see how amateurish and pathetically behind the curve Disney is in both architecture and design.

You can post a hundred of these photos that all make Disney look absolutely pathetic.

But, but, those are public spaces in entertainment concepts built by American public companies so that’s not a fair comparison!!! Or something!!!


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MagicHappens1971

Well-Known Member
While I don't agree with the comparisons of Epcot to multi-billion dollar airports as I just don't think it is a sound comparison, have we failed to mention that the redo of the hub probably cost over $500M? If Guardians cost that much, I would imagine the hub redo (Connections, Creations, Communicore Hall and the actual central hub) cost probably close to that, if not more.

I think what we have is an improvement over what was there before, but overall think it could've had some more "grandeur"
 

pigglewiggle

Well-Known Member
It’s almost like these defenders of these incredibly cheap, bland, and amateurish architectural designs have never been outside of Kissimmee.

Just walk through Vegas and you’ll see how amateurish and pathetically behind the curve Disney is in both architecture and design.

You can post a hundred of these photos that all make Disney look absolutely pathetic.

But, but, those are public spaces in entertainment concepts built by American public companies so that’s not a fair comparison!!! Or something!!!


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Those are gaudy and absolutely hideous.

Only my humble opinion of course.
 

Epcot81Fan

Well-Known Member
Those are gaudy and absolutely hideous.

Only my humble opinion of course.
Well, here’s the good news, in Vegas, where the world’s best architects and interior designers work there are countless styles and tastes to choose from, which is of course the point, not these exact samples.

But hey, if this is absolutely remarkable to you, God bless.


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Bocabear

Well-Known Member
We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
It is what happened next that created the "Bad"... Epcot was extremely popular and I think they wanted to open it up for for crowd control I am guessing....and they basically opened it WAY UP and paved over the green spaces, filled in the waterway and created the giant open plaza they then had to cover with the spiderwebbing of cables and shade sails.... If it had been restored to this version we would have lots of green but in a more planned modern way....Also lots of water....
 

pigglewiggle

Well-Known Member
Well, here’s the good news, in Vegas, where the world’s best architects and interior designers work there are countless styles and tastes to choose from, which is of course the point, not these exact samples.

But hey, if this is absolutely remarkable to you, God bless.


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I'm not sure if you know this, but you posted this already.
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
While I don't agree with the comparisons of Epcot to multi-billion dollar airports as I just don't think it is a sound comparison, have we failed to mention that the redo of the hub probably cost over $500M? If Guardians cost that much, I would imagine the hub redo (Connections, Creations, Communicore Hall and the actual central hub) cost probably close to that, if not more.

I think what we have is an improvement over what was there before, but overall think it could've had some more "grandeur"
The hub definitely did not cost anywhere close to that. Significantly more went into Guardians and it wasn't over $500M. Other than rehabbing CommuniCore East and putting up Plaza/Hall, this entire project was removing some old pavement and installing some new pavement. The lights and the Walt statue were likely the most expensive elements in the whole thing.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I guess Disney must have put this random image of some closed vending carts and a trash can on the cover of the Epcot guide maps or something?

Otherwise, it would almost seem like the poster is not posting in good faith 🤔
He wants us to see how WDW didn't put kiosks in a thruway creating a pinch point, but instead, created it's own space for them. Not only that, he wants to commend WDW for all that seating. He's looking forward the seasonal occupants of those kiosks.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
The hub definitely did not cost anywhere close to that. Significantly more went into Guardians and it wasn't over $500M. Other than rehabbing CommuniCore East and putting up Plaza/Hall, this entire project was removing some old pavement and installing some new pavement. The lights and the Walt statue were likely the most expensive elements in the whole thing.
You think a statue costs more than a building?
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
Some people should send their complaints directly to Disney, instead of beating a now very dead and pulverized horse on these boards, it’s practically a glue factory in here at this point.

You’re making the same comments over, and over again.

We get it. You hate it. Enjoy Vegas. Enjoy visiting gorgeous airports.

Respect your fellow board members and stop repeating yourself.
 

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