News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

lazyboy97o

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Falcon queue drainage issues at opening suggest otherwise.
No, it doesn’t. You’d have to completely redesign the roof, run new plumbing and redo the roof in order to add draining. That was an overflow outlet meaning the likeliest issues were either the primary drain was clogged (and thus it was doing its job) or someone put the overflow collar on the wrong drain.
 

ToTBellHop

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No, it doesn’t. You’d have to completely redesign the roof, run new plumbing and redo the roof in order to add draining. That was an overflow outlet meaning the likeliest issues were either the primary drain was clogged (and thus it was doing its job) or someone put the overflow collar on the wrong drain.
Alright. What state was Toy Story Land developed for? No shade at opening and a Swirling Saucers roof that can’t keep Florida rain out…
 

Gringrinngghost

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No, it doesn’t. You’d have to completely redesign the roof, run new plumbing and redo the roof in order to add draining. That was an overflow outlet meaning the likeliest issues were either the primary drain was clogged (and thus it was doing its job) or someone put the overflow collar on the wrong drain.
Which still puddled up in a guest walking area… you would think the dip would have been addressed before opening.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
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So if baby Brayden is to be believed… Disney possibly broke their lights.

I can’t imagine it gets fixed anytime soon. I’ll standby that once enough sections stop working, they’ll just shut it off.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
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They likely already have more in order with an RMA.
Tough RMAing something when you broke it. I’d imagine *IF* they’re going to fix it, they’ll try to figure out what else they broke. Which explains why you have people going through everything right now.

If it’s as bad as Baby Brayden says, then it’s all got to be ripped out and redone. You can’t replace one failed segment and hope the other water damaged ones stay working.

I’m sure what was put in was not cheap or quick to get. So I have my doubts this ever gets fixed. It’s cheaper and easier just to shut it off.
 

ToTBellHop

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So further proof that WDI has no clue on how the real world works. Did they ever ask Ops how they clean the walk ways? A garden hose isn't going to get baked on festival food off the concrete or get the Florida mildew off of it either.
The entirety of World Celebration shall be cleaned like
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Gringrinngghost

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Overflows are required to discharge in an area where they will be readily noticed but they shouldn’t be seeing regular use.
And having overflow dump right into the guest walking path was?

Tough RMAing something when you broke it. I’d imagine *IF* they’re going to fix it, they’ll try to figure out what else they broke. Which explains why you have people going through everything right now.

If it’s as bad as Baby Brayden says, then it’s all got to be ripped out and redone. You can’t replace one failed segment and hope the other water damaged ones stay working.

I’m sure what was put in was not cheap or quick to get. So I have my doubts this ever gets fixed. It’s cheaper and easier just to shut it off.
Industrial products are entirely different from consumer products and when you are at a certain price point, your warranty covers a lot more then you would think it would. Industrial grade products also are meant to be beaten up and are designed to take a lot more abuse, and in those cases they don’t have to account for stupidity like an average consumer product will be subjected to.

Nonfunctional lighting units will be replaced and the working units won’t be. It will all be determined by the scope of the damage, which it sounds like there is a short to ground somewhere in the connection. If it’s internal to the light itself, that does bring up more challenges, as you have to be worried about corrosion however if it’s in the LED controller and that’s an external unit, it’ll be much easier to replace, and rather a quick part to replace. Also, companies are more willing to repair accidental damage than they are to user abuse, which the pressure washer story falls under accidental.

Edit: Before I have to explain the concept of how the pressure washer story falls under accidental, here’s how. Disney didn’t take a pressure washer directly to the fixture it self. The equipment was in a sealed area designed to be protected from water ingress. The inadvertent side effect of using a pressure washer on the covering which was designed to prohibit water and the protect the lighting, was finding out the seals failed. That is considered accidental damage. An example of accidental damage would be getting your phones battery replaced by Apple and they accidently break the glass on the display. They will replace the display. An example of user abuse, would purposely get your phone back from Apple and then infront of them smash the phone’s screen because you wanted a new display as well for free.
 
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Gringrinngghost

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So further proof that WDI has no clue on how the real world works. Did they ever ask Ops how they clean the walk ways? A garden hose isn't going to get baked on festival food off the concrete or get the Florida mildew off of it either.
It’s also likely that they were told how to clean that specific area, but someone failed to tell the staff during that work. Happens more than you know.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
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Nonfunctional lighting units will be replaced and the working units won’t be. It will all be determined by the scope of the damage, which it sounds like there is a short to ground somewhere in the connection. If it’s internal to the light itself, that does bring up more challenges, as you have to be worried about corrosion however if it’s in the LED controller and that’s an external unit, it’ll be much easier to replace, and rather a quick part to replace. Also, companies are more willing to repair accidental damage than they are to user abuse, which the pressure washer story falls under accidental.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. I deal with commercial electrical equipment on this scale. No company will provide warranty coverage for accidental water damage. I’ve had switch gear destroyed by accidental water damage (broken water pipe) and the customer had to deal with the replacement equipment and labor costs. Infact our warranty letter boilerplate to customers specifically singles out accidental damage as not covered.

Water damage is a pervasive problem that only gets worse over time. The smart course of action is to tear it all out and replace it.
 

ToTBellHop

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You can get 100 artists to sing "Last Christmas" for variety. But if you had to listen to them all in a row...
It’s meant to be an area you pass through for a few minutes on the way to something else.

Do you ever go on, like, rides? I recognize that most penguins wouldn’t be able to ride anything in World Discovery, but perhaps The Seas for the halibut? Lord knows you aren’t stopping to watch the (dead)lights any longer…
 

MisterPenguin

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It’s meant to be an area you pass through for a few minutes on the way to something else.

Do you ever go on, like, rides? I recognize that most penguins wouldn’t be able to ride anything in World Discovery, but perhaps The Seas for the halibut? Lord knows you aren’t stopping to watch the (dead)lights any longer…
Uhhh... the area is now a park.

Where you can sit and chill. Where you can recharge your phone. Where you can eat outdoors. Where you can snuggle with a statue of Walt.

It's no longer merely a means of transit, it's a destination.
 

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