News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

wbostic12

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Anyone have photos of the day walls first went up, or a timestamped article?

Feels like we should commemorate this moment of soon not having a mass of walls in the way, by remembering how far we’ve come.

Here is the central area this morning
Found it.
We haven’t had EPCOT without walls since September 9, 2019
 

wbostic12

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Thank you for doing the digging for us!
It’s been 4ish long years.

PHOTOS - Center of Future World now closed and eastern bypass walkway opens
No Problem! Now that I’ve been hunting, I can’t stop. The center of Future World closed completely February 16, 2020.
 

Skibum1970

Well-Known Member
Even if every single person who has visited Epcot bought an Individual Lightning Lane since the attraction opened this would still not be true.

If Guardians cost $400M and LL cost $20 for each, that would require 20,000,000 riders. So, if everyone at Epcot purchased one LL every day, it would take two years. Something tells me the math doesn't support the assertion. It was a funny statement, though.
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
And there will still be walls up on the 5th. Really ridiculous
Ironically the only thing that was walled off on 9/10/19 was the southwest CommuniCore quadrant, the rest of the plaza remained open. On the 5th there will once again be an open plaza but a walled off southwest CommuniCore. The one area of this project that has been going on for the longest will be the last part to wrap up.
 

Horizonsfan

Well-Known Member
The issue isn’t with the statue being centered, it’s that the background is designed for something symmetrical. Having such a small statue off center is likely the right move. However, the centered curved cast stone background and identical lanterns on pilasters at the ends promote symmetry. That’s what is off about it.

Asymetry works when the whole concept leans into it. That’s why the Mission Space & Imagination facades work so well.

The background likely should have been something angling in one direction or the other, with lanterns of varying size or just a singular fixture at one end.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
The issue isn’t with the statue being centered, it’s that the background is designed for something symmetrical. Having such a small statue off center is likely the right move. However, the centered curved cast stone background and identical lanterns on pilasters at the ends promote symmetry. That’s what is off about it.

Asymetry works when the whole concept leans into it. That’s why the Mission Space & Imagination facades work so well.

The background likely should have been something angling in one direction or the other, with lanterns of varying size or just a singular fixture at one end.
I agree that the immediate backdrop should lean into the asymmetry, though it should be noted that the planters directly in front of the statue do. The one to the west is long and has a tree in it while the one to the east is shorter with lower plantings, so it may look a bit more purposeful when looking toward him from the terraced area.

That said, people who are acting like it's an unintentional mistake are a bit daft. 🤷‍♂️
 

Clamman73

Well-Known Member
I agree that the immediate backdrop should lean into the asymmetry, though it should be noted that the planters directly in front of the statue do. The one to the west is long and has a tree in it while the one to the east is shorter with lower plantings, so it may look a bit more purposeful when looking toward him from the terraced area.

That said, people who are acting like it's an unintentional mistake are a bit daft. 🤷‍♂️
I was about to reply with that point...walking up to it you're presented with asymmetry from the planters.
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
This obsession with things being centred is just dumb.



It’s called the rule of thirds, and is a far more interesting visual.

Complain about the time it took, quality of finishes, whatever… but Walt being off centre is purposeful and works.


It would look dumb and boring if centered.

The Disney brothers were so dumb never sitting in the middle of a bench....

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That's our Brayden!
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
Sadly,...for everybody that has studied and read everything about Walt Disney and his life?....ALL of us know that he would be horrified at many of the decisions that this company has made recently with "his" name on it. If you don't agree then you literally don't know Walt Disney at all.

Love Walt or hate Walt, that's perfectly OK,...be we ALL know this is true.

If there is a Heaven and Walt is up there...I'm certain he is looking down and wishing the company would remove "his" name from it. Honestly, there are MANY employees today that don't even respect Walt Disney and think his life and his history are "problematic". There are even employees that wish he could be removed from the company because of his politics.

Walt's past "activism" (yup,..he was an activist for his day) goes completely against the modern employee "activism" of 2023. Yes, many people hate that about him. (sadly)
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Sadly,...for everybody that has studied and read everything about Walt Disney and his life?....ALL of us know that he would be horrified at many of the decisions that this company has made recently with "his" name on it. If you don't agree then you literally don't know Walt Disney at all.

Love Walt or hate Walt, that's perfectly OK,...be we ALL know this is true.

If there is a Heaven and Walt is up there...I'm certain he is looking down and wishing the company would remove "his" name from it. Honestly, there are MANY employees today that don't even respect Walt Disney and think his life and his history are "problematic". There are even employees that wish he could be removed from the company because of his politics.

Walt's past "activism" (yup,..he was an activist for his day) goes completely against the modern employee "activism" of 2023. Yes, many people hate that about him. (sadly)
I never knew that one of Walt's defining characteristics was resistance to change and inability to develop.

Of course, you're arguing about how Walt would feel about changes in a park that he not only never saw, but had radically different ideas about what it should have been. If Walt is rolling over in his heavenly grave, it's over what his brother and board of directors did with his plans for EPCOT.

And even if there are employees who joined -- and for some strange reason stayed with a Walt Disney company while hating him -- and even if there are a significant number of them, then certainly they're not in charge of anything. We know that because over the past few years, TWDC has been doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the name "Walt" and "Walt Disney." The rumor, which is more of a fevered dream by conspiracy theorists, that the name "Walt" was going to be removed, is utterly laughably. Again, they've been emphasizing Walt, as seen in this statue.
 

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