News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[Casper Gutman]

yeah but that is a massive expansion plot and Id like to see it used for something bigger imo

There are quite a few massive expansion plots at EPCOT and there have been for over 40 years. They aren't using them (except, in one case, to build a meet n' greet for characters from a story not set in the connected country). This is silly.

 

[lazyboy97o]

yeah but that is a massive expansion plot and Id like to see it used for something bigger imo

Who said anything about using a whole expansion pad? Adding Journey of Water while still keeping the expansion pad available would have been a design decision that easily could have been accomplished.

 

[Bocabear]

yeah but that is a massive expansion plot and Id like to see it used for something bigger imo

Given the trajectory of the past couple decades, they will never get to the larger expansion pad that sits behind, but they could have used the front section linking the two pavilions...which would have linked land and seas in a way that felt meaningful...and the quadrant of Communicore that was torn down could have had something that has something to do with World Celebration...where it would make sense....

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

…I hear sales are good.

 

[Figgy1]

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[BlakeW39]

While I will agree they allowed the attractions to be come stale by not updating, I do not think the initial design and construction of the pavilions caused that. The architecture, like that of John Hench's Tomorrowland, only feels dated through our current lens...and like Tomorrowland, they could repaint everything white and wow! it looks forward thinking, and fresh... Which we have also seen with the refresh of the Communicore building they did not tear down... There is too much hate for the architecture...which was not the culprit... Paving over the central core gardens and green areas was...Not updating and occasionally refreshing the attractions was...but the outward design architecturally was pure and futuristic and beautiful and honestly still stands up.

I wasn't referring to the exterior architecture, I was talking about the interior aesthetics. Which I am sad to say are across the board lackluster. Either way, I didn't mean it necessarily in a derogatory way.... just that the original construction of the pavillions' interiors is dated at best

I mean, I say yes. You can’t do anything worse than the literal nothing that Wonders of Life currently is or the figurative nothing Imagination essentially is. For The Land and The Seas, I’m just asking for the common areas to be refreshed, so nothing would be irreversibly damaged, and again, can’t do much worse than the carpeted walls, ugly murals, and cafeteria aesthetic that blight The Land in particular. Anything proposed for World Showcase should be net new, leaving only Spaceship Earth at risk since there’s still a glimmer of the excellence of the original; still, that needs to happen if only to ensure the ride system isn’t irreparably damaged.

Mmm.... fair enough, but I don't want to see either of these things happen until after Iger's left... reason being any refresh to Seas really needs to ditch the tacky Nemo overlay and I can't imagine IPger making that move

 

[BlakeW39]

I seriously think bringing back old Imagination or something very similar could save the entire park if done right. That ride was up there with Tiki room, small world, Pirates, and Haunted as an original Disney ride

It was a CORE part of Disney that is now lacking severely.

Epcot is an example of how you can ruin the character of an entire park by changing too much. Also I'm SERIOUSLY sick of IP attractions and ZERO original ideas. It shows a HUGE creative block on the part of the parks team. It shows that they are not creative at all in fact.

no doubt... but good luck with that

thing is... I think EPCOT is a pretty easy fix. Like the bones are solid. It's not underbuilt like DHS or DAK. Just gotta undo all the crap Eisner did in his late tenure


and hold out hope that 20+ years down the road Guardians gets rethemed by someone with a brain

 

[DCBaker]

Looks like an exterior refurbishment at Mission Space is about to begin. Photos from today.

 

[Haymarket2008]

Just tear it down already.

 

[DCBaker]

Additional photos from today. Lighting has been added to the newly landscaped area next to Guest Relations.

 

[tparris]

Some final(?) exterior panels have been staged outside of CommuniCore Hall, on the side facing JoW. They’re triangular

 

[HauntedPirate]

Just tear it down already.

While it is something I cannot/do not ride anytime, it is the one replacement that really fit the theme of EPCOT Center. Not that I’ve ever been happy about M:S, mind you.

 

[BlakeW39]

While it is something I cannot/do not ride anytime, it is the one replacement that really fit the theme of EPCOT Center. Not that I’ve ever been happy about M:S, mind you.

I think it's one of the more solid Eisner era replacements......but that's not saying much.

The Walt Disney Company.....making stupid short sighted decisions since 1996. (at least)

 

[MagicWDI]

I wish they made an actual pavilion centered around space with maybe M:S (or something else) in the back. Something similar to The Land and past pavilions. I love space and the space program, and wish we got more than just M:S.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

I wish they made an actual pavilion centered around space with maybe M:S (or something else) in the back. Something similar to The Land and past pavilions. I love space and the space program, and wish we got more than just M:S.

Look up the proposed Journeys in Space concept to replace Horizons. Absolute shame it didn't happen.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

and hold out hope that 20+ years down the road Guardians gets rethemed by someone with a brain

This may sound strange, but I think that it would really work well as a spiritual successor to Adventure Thru Inner Space. Returning to the idea of matter and energy, riders will be shrunken down to the atomic level and will journey through inner space. The star projections could easily become electrons and even the moon that you spin around at the end could be the nucleus of an atom.

It's a weird idea, but so is putting Guardians into Epcot.

 

[MagicWDI]

Look up the proposed Journeys in Space concept to replace Horizons. Absolute shame it didn't happen.

I almost don't want to. I don't want to be even more sad about it lol

 

[BlakeW39]

Look up the proposed Journeys in Space concept to replace Horizons. Absolute shame it didn't happen.

This may sound strange, but I think that it would really work well as a spiritual successor to Adventure Thru Inner Space. Returning to the idea of matter and energy, riders will be shrunken down to the atomic level and will journey through inner space. The star projections could easily become electrons and even the moon that you spin around at the end could be the nucleus of an atom.

It's a weird idea, but so is putting Guardians into Epcot.

yeah and see this is what I mean. I know most of it is the IP mandate but what does modern 'imagineering' have any 'imagination' whatsoever? Both of these ideas would have been much better than Guardians. Almost every single idea someone has come up with on this website is better than literally any of the attractions WDI has built over the course of the last 15 years. I don't know if it's higher level execs watering everything down but man, Guardians is such a bummer in my opinion, all that money spent on an 'eh, it was pretty fun."

 

[mysto]

I think it's one of the more solid Eisner era replacements......but that's not saying much.

There is an engineer that actually came up with the concept for Mission Space.
His boss took credit for it, and is tapped for "creativity" to this day.
We all attribute it to Eisner.

Hopefully the guy or girl is getting credit for their current work.
No one seems to know who it is, consistent with my theory:

Misson: SPACE - Epcot

Misson: SPACE - Epcot at Walt Disney World in Orlando Florida

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[Bocabear]

yeah and see this is what I mean. I know most of it is the IP mandate but what does modern 'imagineering' have any 'imagination' whatsoever? Both of these ideas would have been much better than Guardians. Almost every single idea someone has come up with on this website is better than literally any of the attractions WDI has built over the course of the last 15 years. I don't know if it's higher level execs watering everything down but man, Guardians is such a bummer in my opinion, all that money spent on an 'eh, it was pretty fun."

I would rate it a lot higher...though I think the big effect in the queue could have been a little more thrilling, and I hate that the screens create so much light reflection...like everything needs to be painted with a super matte black paint and the intensity of the light projections need to be turned down or something, but it is a super fun ride, lots of laughs, and a pure joy...
We can pick apart little things, but this was a fun addition...