News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

kalel8145

Well-Known Member
In 2018, there were 243 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 33% [One third of the year!]

In 2019, there were 247 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 32%

In 2020, there were 291 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 20% [Thanks to "A Touch of F&W starting mid-July]

In 2021, there were 331 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 9% [Garden went longer, Arts started earlier]

In 2022, there will be 326 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 11% [Basically one to two weeks of no festival days when one ends and the next begins]
So you can pretty much catch a festival anytime you go. Nice.
 

Bocabear

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Zach is full of corporate buzzwords, but in the end, it's a planter instead of a spectacular fountain that should be there, and would have "Activated" the center with sound and kinetic motion that a Planter Dislay will never equal. The lighted pavement will be the current LED non-neon rope we see other places, the controllable lights will be bollards and spotlights...I am sure it will look nice, but not groundbreaking... The sad thing is they could have "Activated" the other half of Communicore instead of tearing it down and losing the park symmetry. Parts of Journey Of Water could have been interior climate controlled environments.
I know we will never get back what was, but after years of construction, it doesn't seem worth it.
 

Epcot82Guy

Well-Known Member
Zach is full of corporate buzzwords, but in the end, it's a planter instead of a spectacular fountain that should be there, and would have "Activated" the center with sound and kinetic motion that a Planter Dislay will never equal. The lighted pavement will be the current LED non-neon rope we see other places, the controllable lights will be bollards and spotlights...I am sure it will look nice, but not groundbreaking... The sad thing is they could have "Activated" the other half of Communicore instead of tearing it down and losing the park symmetry. Parts of Journey Of Water could have been interior climate controlled environments.
I know we will never get back what was, but after years of construction, it doesn't seem worth it.

Agreed.

And I know a lot of people are enjoying the changes, and I don't want to take that away from you. I think the point is that a much, much better version of this that appealed to both those people as well as a significant portion of the naysayers (myself included) would have not only been possible - but possible at the same or less of a cost. This seems to more and more be an issue of corporate disconnection from audience and ego than "Disney is a business". I hope, deep down, lessons can be properly learned as a result. While you can never please anyone, it seems there are ways to please significantly more people than these current projects are accomplishing.
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
Zach is full of corporate buzzwords, but in the end, it's a planter instead of a spectacular fountain that should be there, and would have "Activated" the center with sound and kinetic motion that a Planter Dislay will never equal. The lighted pavement will be the current LED non-neon rope we see other places, the controllable lights will be bollards and spotlights...I am sure it will look nice, but not groundbreaking... The sad thing is they could have "Activated" the other half of Communicore instead of tearing it down and losing the park symmetry. Parts of Journey Of Water could have been interior climate controlled environments.
I know we will never get back what was, but after years of construction, it doesn't seem worth it.
agree....but it really irks me that all he can do is talk about lighting, its like the lights on spaceship earth is all they have to talk about while the attraction itself gets no love at all and left to fall apart. 15 years now of hanging chicken wire and dust curtains in the descent, have you guys forgotten about show quality? They just simply dont care anymore as long as the drinks are flowing and cash flowing in. (comments aimed to disney management).
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Is anyone actually claiming this, or just finding it funny/ironic that they tore down something that would've been perfectly usable for what is eventually going up in that spot?
Well that's what I was trying to clarify. Those who don't follow this as closely as some might take that as what happened, namely, that as they tore down SW, they knew they were replacing it with a building with the same footprint.

And then we hear something to effect, "oh yes, they knew Toadstool was out..." without clarifying whether it was a SW footprint or not, which still leaves the question open...

When SW was starting to be razed, did they know at that time they were going to build a replacement with the same footprint?​

The outward facing Disney would make that a hard 'no.' Since at the shutdown, they announced the Toadstool was out to be replaced by some undetermined Festival Building, and then, shortly after that, it became "a festival area." So if some insider knows for sure that that was all a lie and they knew at the time of demolition they were switching to a building with the same footprint... that would be very interesting to know.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
I WILL FOOL THE HUMANS TO MAKE THEM THINK I AM ONE OF THEM BY USING WORDS LIKE "ACTIVATION" TO DESCRIBE SPECIFIC EVENTS.

maywa denki robot GIF
 

Disstevefan1

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Can I just say I like how they're emphasizing the NON-symmetrical "hard edges vs. soft edges" motif which was present in the walkways (east straight lines, west curvy lines) but will now be switched in the architecture.

This also reminds me of something... hmm...

@Epcot82Guy does it look like anything to you? ;)
I guess we can agree to disagree as to if this layout looks more symmetrical compared to the toad stool design, but we can agree it's a good looking layout.
I don't agree with the addition of Moana, but that mistake has left the barn...
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
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Can I just say I like how they're emphasizing the NON-symmetrical "hard edges vs. soft edges" motif which was present in the walkways (east straight lines, west curvy lines) but will now be switched in the architecture.

This also reminds me of something... hmm...

@Epcot82Guy does it look like anything to you? ;)
But it’ll be switched, which doesn’t make much sense. Honestly I think it’s more a result of cheaper construction and of wanting to avoid embarrassment by having it look different enough.
 

britain

Well-Known Member
In 2018, there were 243 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 33% [One third of the year!]

In 2019, there were 247 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 32%

In 2020, there were 291 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 20% [Thanks to "A Touch of F&W starting mid-July]

In 2021, there were 331 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 9% [Garden went longer, Arts started earlier]

In 2022, there will be 326 festival days. Percentage of the year with no festival days: 11% [Basically one to two weeks of no festival days when one ends and the next begins]

I really don't care since these festivals don't inhibit the basic Epcot experience for me.

It's not like Haunted Mansion Holiday has gobbled up 90% of the year, thereby depriving me of classic Haunted Mansion.
 

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