News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[marni1971]

If TAA goes digital, does that mean a new edit of the closing sequence, perhaps?

The idea is (as well a huge leap in overall SQ) the finale will be easily updatable.

 

[MCast]

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There's actually been 3 of them near Epcot. Hopefully it looks like the one that'll do the least damage is moving forward.

Assuming they need another hotel.

Do you know if it will be a part of Crescent Lake? Any insight into theming or walking access to Epcot?

 

[clemmo]

There's actually been 3 of them near Epcot. Hopefully it looks like the one that'll do the least damage is moving forward.

Assuming they need another hotel.

Do the least damage? That doesn't sound good. Are you also hearing talk about the SW resort near DHS?

 

[SpaceMountain77]

There's actually been 3 of them near Epcot. Hopefully it looks like the one that'll do the least damage is moving forward.

Assuming they need another hotel.

@marni1971 , please help me to understand this logic. Within three years time, three longhouses and an entire wing were subject to Disney Vacation Club conversion at Disney's Polynesian Village Resort and Disney's Wilderness Lodge Resort, respectively. Moreover, two islands will soon be razed at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort, so that a DVC tower can be constructed.

If Disney Vacation Club conversions are necessary to address occupancy rates at existing resorts, then why are more resort hotels necessary?

 

[Sabriel]

Would it be possible, if they were to tear down the Innoventions buildings and remove the fountain of nations, to construct a large round building right in the center of the plaza. The outside border of the building could be the center of the current buildings. This would then make the area alongside the monorail bean even wider and greener when fully planted. It would also allow guest to go left or right directly to The Living Seas or Universe of Energy. The new building could house attractions or shows or whatever.

Blasphemy! You leave my favorite fountain alone! It's the only thing that helps me forget about the stupid tarps.

 

[marni1971]

Do the least damage? That doesn't sound good. Are you also hearing talk about the SW resort near DHS?

I am. Though so far as I'm aware it's a long way off.

 

[marni1971]

Do you know if it will be a part of Crescent Lake?

Not that I'm aware of.

 

[marni1971]

@marni1971 , please help me to understand this logic. Within three years time, three longhouses and an entire wing were subject to Disney Vacation Club conversion at Disney's Polynesian Village Resort and Disney's Wilderness Lodge Resort, respectively. Moreover, two islands will soon be razed at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort, so that a DVC tower can be constructed.

If Disney Vacation Club conversions are necessary to address occupancy rates at existing resorts, then why are more resort hotels necessary?

Computer says yes?

 

[Kamikaze]

If Disney Vacation Club conversions are necessary to address occupancy rates at existing resorts, then why are more resort hotels necessary?

SWL + TSL + 50th = more guests than what they have room for, I would think.

 

[Kman101]

SWL + TSL + 50th = more guests than what they have room for, I would think.

They can barely handle the overwhelming crowds they get now ...

 

[Kamikaze]

They can barely handle the overwhelming crowds they get now ...

Handling and having enough rooms are two different things.

 

[Kman101]

Handling and having enough rooms are two different things.

I took "room" another way, LOL, sorry ...

 

[Mike S]

This. Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong being featured during the climax of the song for so long is almost laughable and just makes it seem like Disney doesn't care about the attraction too much.

With that said, a switch to digital is definitely a step in the right direction and I'm happy to see that it's getting some love!

Isn't Bill Cosby in there too?

 

[LuvtheGoof]

@marni1971 , please help me to understand this logic. Within three years time, three longhouses and an entire wing were subject to Disney Vacation Club conversion at Disney's Polynesian Village Resort and Disney's Wilderness Lodge Resort, respectively. Moreover, two islands will soon be razed at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort, so that a DVC tower can be constructed.

If Disney Vacation Club conversions are necessary to address occupancy rates at existing resorts, then why are more resort hotels necessary?

The thing is, it's not just a simple comparison. They are reporting over-all resort hotel occupancy levels at 90%. That is actually higher than a hotel operator would really want, as there are always rooms out of service for one reason or another, and having only 10% available gives them pretty much zero leeway. So the statistics tell them that they need more hotel rooms.

Then on the other hand, you have more people joining DVC that are looking for more options for where to stay, so they add more of those as well. The other thing to remember - if a DVC room isn't being used by a member, or if a member uses their points for a cruise or swap out to RCI, then those rooms are given to CRO for cash reservations. With a few exceptions, you can usually find DVC rooms available for cash at most resorts. Of course, certain categories, such as 3 bedroom grand villas, will rarely go for cash, and many will not have anything available during the busy times.

 

[larryz]

I'm thinking AK will attract many more people then it does now and slow down park hopping. I think part of the crowding problems at WDW are park hoppers all heading to one park at certain times, in theory if the crowd spread out more evenly over the day and night capacity over all would go up through out WDW. I know personally I had seen all the shows at DHS so there wasn't much for me to do there. I'm not much on watching the same shows over and over again but I will ride rides over and over again. For my family DHS became a 3 ride park, hit and get out. Happens my favorite ride in all of WDW is ToT so I l aways hit DHS.

I do not think SWL and TSL will draw very many people who weren't coming to WDW in the first place. I don't think it will be like Potter. Also Potter took a while to really gain numbers, at first sure there was a bunch of people who came to see the new attraction but it's more a steady overall incline in attendance at Universal. Universal also upped the amount of hotel rooms drastically.

We will see as always. Doesn't matter to me spend theme park guys, spend, build, do something new.

The one twist to all this is the US is way over do for a recession. The things I look at seem to tell a story of continued economic strength but the US is over due.

One way to solve this is demand pricing for park hoppers. Add an Any Park-to-MK hop-to surcharge and give a MK-to-DHS hop-to credit.

 

[Corey P]

One way to solve this is demand pricing for park hoppers. Add an Any Park-to-MK hop-to surcharge and give a MK-to-DHS hop-to credit.

ROTFLOL. WDW is already more complicated then I care for, that idea would really be bad and you know Disney would never give a credit for anything, just charge more something.

 

[Monorail_Red_77]

Not sure if this is part of the new changes coming or if it is just part of the normal refurb timeline for this area at Mouse Gears. Looks to be planter work of some sort. Here are the pics anyway.

 

[marni1971]

Not sure if this is part of the new changes coming or if it is just part of the normal refurb timeline for this area at Mouse Gears. Looks to be planter work of some sort. Here are the pics anyway.

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Hopefully it's to replace those scrims. They're terrible.

 

[michmousefan]

Hopefully it's to replace those scrims. They're terrible.

... and can they start getting rid of that horrendous paint job as well?

 

[Bocabear]

Really!! the paint job is awful Scrims look terrible...Time to start making futureworld look bright again instead of crappy paint and decay. The original architecture is stunning if they would just stop trying to cover it up...