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News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
@marni1971 , please help me to understand this logic. Within three years time, three longhouses and an entire wing were subject to Disney Vacation Club conversion at Disney's Polynesian Village Resort and Disney's Wilderness Lodge Resort, respectively. Moreover, two islands will soon be razed at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort, so that a DVC tower can be constructed.

If Disney Vacation Club conversions are necessary to address occupancy rates at existing resorts, then why are more resort hotels necessary?
Computer says yes?
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
This. Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong being featured during the climax of the song for so long is almost laughable and just makes it seem like Disney doesn't care about the attraction too much.

With that said, a switch to digital is definitely a step in the right direction and I'm happy to see that it's getting some love!
Isn't Bill Cosby in there too?
 

LuvtheGoof

Title Removed by Request
Premium Member
@marni1971 , please help me to understand this logic. Within three years time, three longhouses and an entire wing were subject to Disney Vacation Club conversion at Disney's Polynesian Village Resort and Disney's Wilderness Lodge Resort, respectively. Moreover, two islands will soon be razed at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort, so that a DVC tower can be constructed.

If Disney Vacation Club conversions are necessary to address occupancy rates at existing resorts, then why are more resort hotels necessary?
The thing is, it's not just a simple comparison. They are reporting over-all resort hotel occupancy levels at 90%. That is actually higher than a hotel operator would really want, as there are always rooms out of service for one reason or another, and having only 10% available gives them pretty much zero leeway. So the statistics tell them that they need more hotel rooms.

Then on the other hand, you have more people joining DVC that are looking for more options for where to stay, so they add more of those as well. The other thing to remember - if a DVC room isn't being used by a member, or if a member uses their points for a cruise or swap out to RCI, then those rooms are given to CRO for cash reservations. With a few exceptions, you can usually find DVC rooms available for cash at most resorts. Of course, certain categories, such as 3 bedroom grand villas, will rarely go for cash, and many will not have anything available during the busy times.
 

larryz

Disneyphilus Smirkatious
Premium Member
I'm thinking AK will attract many more people then it does now and slow down park hopping. I think part of the crowding problems at WDW are park hoppers all heading to one park at certain times, in theory if the crowd spread out more evenly over the day and night capacity over all would go up through out WDW. I know personally I had seen all the shows at DHS so there wasn't much for me to do there. I'm not much on watching the same shows over and over again but I will ride rides over and over again. For my family DHS became a 3 ride park, hit and get out. Happens my favorite ride in all of WDW is ToT so I l aways hit DHS.

I do not think SWL and TSL will draw very many people who weren't coming to WDW in the first place. I don't think it will be like Potter. Also Potter took a while to really gain numbers, at first sure there was a bunch of people who came to see the new attraction but it's more a steady overall incline in attendance at Universal. Universal also upped the amount of hotel rooms drastically.

We will see as always. Doesn't matter to me spend theme park guys, spend, build, do something new.

The one twist to all this is the US is way over do for a recession. The things I look at seem to tell a story of continued economic strength but the US is over due.
One way to solve this is demand pricing for park hoppers. Add an Any Park-to-MK hop-to surcharge and give a MK-to-DHS hop-to credit.
 

clemmo

Well-Known Member
I don't get what's taking so long for the spine project to get underway. Is it really that major of changes? Some of it i.e. The scrims and tarps can be taken down now. For this to not be done until 2020 there must be something bigger to this project than we know of
 
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