UNCgolf
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It's about the overall length more than anything else. I don't think Disney has ever built a C ticket ride that was longer than 5 minutes.
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It's about the overall length more than anything else. I don't think Disney has ever built a C ticket ride that was longer than 5 minutes.
doctornick
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Well, that all depends on what one considers a "C-ticket" or whatnot. But I don't think it's really true. Three Cabelleros is about 7 minutes for example. Littler Mermaid is about 6:30.
UNCgolf
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Things do happen, though, at least to an extent. It's not just static everywhere; NRJ may have the best use of screens/projections of any Disney ride. It's one of the many things about the ride's design I wish they'd learn from and use elsewhere.
To be fair, I also don't think a ride has to have specific action or any kind of narrative to work. If I feel immersed/transported to another place, then the ride has nailed maybe the most important aspect of a themed attraction (which is also why heavily screen based rides don't usually work well for me, especially for repeat rides, because I never really feel transported without inhabiting a physical space). A D or E ticket may need more than that, but I don't think a C does. I think the ride would potentially be diminished if they'd attempted to force some action into it because it would fundamentally alter the experience.
I'm not arguing it's a perfect attraction; it certainly isn't that. And of course all of this is subjective. But I'd rather ride it than probably all of the Ds they've built in the past couple of decades, and even some of the Es.
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UNCgolf
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I don't think there was ever any intention for Little Mermaid to be a C ticket. They spent over $100 million on it.
Three Caballeros might count (I'd personally consider it a C for sure) but I have no idea what they considered those World Showcase attractions (most of which were never built).
SplashJacket
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I agree with this. I like the ride, but I think that’s the issue so many people have with it. What’s there is absolutely fantastic, but there’s just not enough of it. It’s an E-ticket concept squished into a C-ticket.
What’s there is too good to just be a C-ticket. It’s a C-ticket because it fails to provide a complete experience, not because its quality is lacking.
My main frustration is it wouldn’t have taken much more to get an incredible D or modest E. A relatively modest increase in budget could’ve gotten it a higher capacity and a complete experience that would’ve alleviated pressure off FoP.
NRJ should really be a walkthrough. Why commit to a boat ride if you’re only gonna go 75%.
ToTBellHop
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A valiant effort. Failed. But valiant. We will write songs about you.
Fox&Hound
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I think the problem is they build them in isolation (Moana) so people expect them to be huge e-ticket experiences. Open one in addition to Rise and MF for example and people would be happy.
Yes they did that with TSL but the alien ride is poorly done. Who thought a stationary crane was the way to go? Why not have it move and then one of the cars lights up and announces “I have been chosen! Farewell my friends. I go on to a better place.” That would add some charm…
And commemorative popcorn buckets and cupcakes will rain down from the sky.
aladdin2007
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Casper Gutman
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We'll criticize Curse of the Werewolf at EU for the exact same thing.
You can win. Making rides that last more then a minute is a start.
Those Mack spinner launched coasters are a blast, don’t knock it. I know it won’t be as forceful but Time Traveler at SDC is amazing, I welcome being able to ride more of that type of coaster.
DisneyDean97
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lol true, I think that's because the concept art looked similar to Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, and people assumed it was going to be its equivalent. Its basically their park's Barnstormer coaster, just really really well themed.
Bocabear
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You certainly can... make a ride longer than 90 seconds... Any coaster is going to have huge long lines... Nothing is more frustrating than waiting an hour plus for a ride that is literally under a minute long... This is not an advanced concept to understand...
Tha Realest
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How much do you think this phenomenon stems from the original / second generation Imagineers having been steeped in other disciplines like animation layout and story development vs more modern Imagineers (who, nothing against them, but don’t necessarily come up from that sort of background).
BrianLo
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Mary poppins is being put on a pedestal as well, but would have been pilloried. Though the facade concept looked nice.
The concept there also needed to be a fantasyland busbar C ticket, not a carousel. It’s not hard for them to set an expectation of ‘this ride is like Snow White or Peter Pan’ from the get go.
On average roller coaster are only 2 minutes long. This is not an exclusive to Disney problem, it’s most roller coasters ever built. How long should it be? 90 seconds isn’t egregiously short by that metric.
MagicHappens1971
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Tron is egregiously short. SDMT is egregiously short. In my opinion, Barnstormer is not *egregiously* short because it is not sold as an "E-ticket". Story coasters like Hagrid's (in my opinion) should be the blueprint for all "story" coasters going forward. If Disney (or any other theme park) is pouring 100s of millions of dollars into a headliner it should be no shorter than 2-3 minutes (especially for a coaster).
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PREMiERdrum
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All 4 minutes and 10 seconds of The Beast is an hour fourty-five down the road, so I might be excluded from this discussion.
PREMiERdrum
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Guardians is a well-paced experience. Hagrid's is good, and Velocicoaster is my current #1. SDMT is iffy and Tron is offensively short. The gravity building has plenty of room for a longer layout. With the financial outlay of that project, the ride experience itself is a miss.