News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

SteamboatJoe

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I get her point. If we made "Englishland" and had USA mini land, Scotland mini land, England mini land, Australia mini land, Canada mini land and a South African Land, we might think that was a lot of different cutltures/histories being lumped together based on a shared predominant use of the English language.

Yes, most definitely. Unfortunately, me noting the two countries spoke Spanish in the post that sparked this discussion unintentionally implied this notion. I appreciate your understanding and attempts to help bettee describe what I was trying to really get at.
 

correcaminos

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How different are Chicago and New York, when it comes down to it?
I take it you have not been to both then. Honestly walking through NYC with how the streets are and transportation is totally different. Not to mention food, attitudes and such.
Adding Encanto to Mexico would absolutely be wrong. I understand your sensitivity to this issue and appreciate your insight. I think we are really talking past one another in some respects.
I also think you choices weren't really showing what I was trying to say. Having visited both regions I see a big difference in both. But we can agree to disagree. Some people see things differently really. You see roadside similarities and I agree, but if you saw the pic of a painted rock formation next to near Mexico City, I'd see vast differences. Which one would expect so far away. The lands of Central México are unique to me. But one may focus differently on other views and only try to make connections. Truly that is part of the issue. Embrace the differences. No need to make it like the US because that's what US citizens know.

But as I said we can agree to disagree and would rather do that. I understand what you might be saying, I just happen to see even regions vastly different.

Not very, besides pizza (way too much tomato in Chicago haha).

I get her point. If we made "Englishland" and had USA mini land, Scotland mini land, England mini land, Australia mini land, Canada mini land and a South African Land, we might think that was a lot of different cutltures/histories being lumped together based on a shared predominant use of the English language.

I still think Disney can utilize transitions in a way to differentiate Frontierland, Coco and Encanto so that they are clearly distinct and yet merged in an appropriate way.

New England -> Louisana -> Southwestern US -> Mexico -> Central America (food kiosk, jk) -> Colombia -> Venezuela (UP!)
Thank you and yes to all of this... though I do feel and see big differences between the city. Visited both often and my work is NYC based. I'd be happy to live in NYC but I dislike Chicago and only go now to visit friends. The pizza though. So much wrong with Chicago style. It's not even pizza! 🤣
 

crazy4disney

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In the Parks
No
Nope.

Boneyard/Dinoland/Chester & Hester = Moana (probably group in Nemo to make it Oceania)
DINOSAUR = Zootopia
Serious question with all this hilarity mixed in between…. Is Dinosaur getting rethemed to Zootopia ride or is it getting demolished and something new for Zootopia is in the works?
 

DCLcruiser

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Serious question with all this hilarity mixed in between…. Is Dinosaur getting rethemed to Zootopia ride or is it getting demolished and something new for Zootopia is in the works?
I thought the current thinking is that it will be rethemed, bc the Zootopia ride in Shanghai has a police car driving around (although I have seen rumors it is trackless). So they could just retheme the Dinosaur car to drive through different sets/screens.
 

flyakite

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Does it matter if countries are smushed together beyond Thunder Mountain? How many countries are represented in the one River on the Jungle Cruise?
 

Big_Shakalaka

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So let’s make a guess on villains they’ll feature can’t use:

-Evil Queen and Stepmother (promotes biases about adoptive parents and is sexist because it portrays strong women as evil)
-Malnificent and Cruella (see sexism above but worse because these are single women)
-Queen of Hearts (sexist)
-Jafar, Scar, Ursula (biases towards queer personas)
-Dr Facilier (smear towards practitioners of Vodoo)

So Frollo, Gaeston, Capt Hook and….
This needs to be an entire park. They ABSOLUTELY have enough villain IP to base a DCA sized park out of it.
 

SNS

Active Member
Serious question with all this hilarity mixed in between…. Is Dinosaur getting rethemed to Zootopia ride or is it getting demolished and something new for Zootopia is in the works?

My guess is that all the Dinosaur animatronics and trees and such would be removed and a mixture of Zootopia animatronics and screens (mostly screens) would be put into their place. The ride would still have some thrills in how the vehicle move but no longer will be dark.

Maybe the animatronic skeletons of the dinosaurs can be reused for something (like what happened with Superstar Limo when it became Monsters Inc) if they want to save some more money.
 

crazy4disney

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
My guess is that all the Dinosaur animatronics and trees and such would be removed and a mixture of Zootopia animatronics and screens (mostly screens) would be put into their place. The ride would still have some thrills in how the vehicle move but no longer will be dark.

Maybe the animatronic skeletons of the dinosaurs can be reused for something (like what happened with Superstar Limo when it became Monsters Inc) if they want to save some more money.
so the same ride system....
 

DisneyDodo

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It never draws them away from MK. No one cuts MK out of their trip. So it needs to grow. They also keep adding to the other castle parks (except DLP…) for this reason.
I don’t necessarily agree that this is an inevitability. MK has ~twice as many rides as the other parks, and that’s always been the case, so it’s natural that most guests prefer it. In theory, if they built up the other parks to the same extent (which they have ample space to do), and especially if they spread around their most popular IPs amongst all the parks as they have done in recent years, the distribution of guests could change.
 

ppete1975

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I thought there was a crowding issue at MK? More rides and more lands = more spread out.
MK is park number 1 the others are secondary that will never change. Alot of tourists only see MK and only go there. When you see the publicity, the castle, the rides, the princesses, its always MK. So spreading out people is the best option, not the current replace an attraction which only drives up attendance without spreading them out. I am shocked and happy they are even bringing it up.
 

DCLcruiser

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one of the most magical spots in epcot is the inside of the mexico pavillion, the street atmosphere, the restaurant and of course the mural, i wish Disney did more immersion of this type
Yes, it is my favorite pavilion at EPCOT. My wife and I had a dinner there back when we first started dating. She loved it.
 

DCLcruiser

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MK is park number 1 the others are secondary that will never change. Alot of tourists only see MK and only go there. When you see the publicity, the castle, the rides, the princesses, its always MK. So spreading out people is the best option, not the current replace an attraction which only drives up attendance without spreading them out. I am shocked and happy they are even bringing it up.
Agreed. I think for many, MK is day 1, and other parks can be added or deleted as necessary. MK needs to grow to spread people out. Frankly, we need a Captain Hook ride if only to try and reduce Peter Pan's wait times.
 

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