News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[Tha Realest]

Nah, its significantly more niche than you think.

Mario’s one of the most known and recognizable characters around. We’ll get to test this hypothesis in a month as to how niche he is.

 

[Schmidt]

Mario’s one of the most known and recognizable characters around. We’ll get to test this hypothesis in a month as to how niche he is.

Exactly.

 

[Touchdown]

Exactly.

I think it’s going to be the highest grossing animated movie of the year. I also think it’s going to stay #1 at the box office until Guardians a month later. It’s litterally the first family film released this year. The marketing campaign has also been top notch at building excitement, people are hyped for this. I think you are going to be quite surprised.

 

[Tha Realest]

I think it’s going to be the highest grossing animated movie of the year. I also think it’s going to stay #1 at the box office until Guardians a month later. It’s litterally the first family film released this year. The marketing campaign has also been top notch at building excitement, people are hyped for this. I think you are going to be quite surprised.

I think it’s going to gross over a billion worldwide.

 

[UNCgolf]

I think it’s going to gross over a billion worldwide.

If it doesn't it'll probably be considered a failure. 30 movies have cleared $1 billion since 2015; they have to be expecting that kind of return for Mario.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Nah, its significantly more niche than you think.

Your average Joe on the street who's never held a video game controller knows who Mario is. He's the most well known character created within the past 40 years.

Just because everyone doesn't play games doesn't mean people don't know Mario. At this point, the vast majority of people who know Mickey Mouse sadly probably haven't seen any cartoons with him in it. But he's still one of the most recognizable characters on Earth.

 

[aladdin2007]

could we get back on topic

 

[ToTBellHop]

could we get back on topic

No.

 

[The Mom]

could we get back on topic

Yes. Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom is the topic, in case posters have forgotten.

 

[Elijah Abrams]

I still don’t think this expansion is going to go through, since this was conceptualized during Bob Chapek’s tenure at Disney, and Bob Iger is trying to get rid of the stuff Chapek made now that he is back. I, in fact, agree with some of the comments here on the thread and think Epcot should get the Coco and Encanto stuff, though I think an Encanto attraction focusing on Antonio's animals would be much better for Animal Kingdom.

 

[KingMickey13]

I wouldn’t be so sure to say that this has been canned. Encanto and Coco were both developed under Iger and that idea seems like exactly something that Iger would love. But I will wait for updates from insiders.

 

[KingMickey13]

We won't have to wait long.
I'm just saying I would be blown away if this does $1B globally.
I think a lot of this will come down to the quality of movie and not the name alone. We have seen Mario Movies bomb before and thats when Mario was in his prime back in 93. It grossed 38M. Granted that movie was unwatchable.

That Mario movie was an absolute disaster of a film, though. It's hard to use it as a measuring stick for anything when the quality was so poor.

Anyways, as I said above, I think $1B is likely the baseline they're looking for with this film. $1B isn't a crazy number for a movie anymore; there are usually several films that clear that total every year. They'll probably be happy if it clears $1B (or at least gets really close); I think they'll consider it a big disappointment if it doesn't.

I'm honestly not sure what to expect personally.

@The Mom said that this is off topic, so there is no need to discuss it here.

 

[Schmidt]

We won't have to wait long.
I'm just saying I would be blown away if this does $1B globally.
I think a lot of this will come down to the quality of movie and not the name alone. We have seen Mario Movies bomb before and thats when Mario was in his prime.

@The Mom said that this is off topic, so there is no need to discuss it here.

Fair enough. First time on this thread. Didn't realize it was taken over by the Mario conversation.
Anyway, back on topic.

Fingers crossed for "The Evil Disney" addition. Although I know that will probably never happen.

 

[Elijah Abrams]

I wouldn’t be so sure to say that this has been canned. Encanto and Coco were both developed under Iger and that idea seems like exactly something that Iger would love. But I will wait for updates from insiders.

Iger is only at Disney again for two years, starting November 2022, meaning that he’s back until 2024, just as long has he found his true, proper successor. Not sure if this gives him time to fully greenlight the "Beyond BTM" expansion.

Yet again, if Coco and Encanto park projects were greenlit under Iger, they should be exclusive to Epcot and Animal Kingdom respectively.

 

[SplashJacket]

Disney Fans: "Stop the IP invasion!"

Encanto & Coco are still big enough to justify this expansion atleast. I wish it was going to EPCOT though.

Add a Coco expansion that recreates Miguel's villages in that spot inbetween current Mexico & Norway. The Mexico Pavillion is popular enough to justify more of it being added.

A Colombian Pavillion with an Encanto ride is a no brainer too.

Having a "Coco" ride in Magic Kingdom when there's a Mexico pavilion down the street at Epcot would be maddening. Understood that there are hurdles in updating the pavilion - i.e. logistics and traffic congestion - but make it happen, Disney!

If they had a bigger budget and actually wanted to expand the Mexico ride length (and more space for the queue), I would 100% prefer Coco went in Epcot.

I think Epcot should get the Coco and Encanto stuff, though I think an Encanto attraction focusing on Antonio's animals would be much better for Animal Kingdom.

If Coco and Encanto park projects were greenlit under Iger, they should be exclusive to Epcot and Animal Kingdom respectively.

 

[KingMickey13]

Iger is only at Disney again for two years, starting November 2022, meaning that he’s back until 2024, just as long has he found his true, proper successor. Not sure if this gives him time to fully greenlight the "Beyond BTM" expansion.

Yet again, if Coco and Encanto park projects were greenlit under Iger, they should be exclusive to Epcot and Animal Kingdom respectively.

The first part is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me if this project was expedited. About the second part, that’a just your personal opinion.

Disney Fans: "Stop the IP invasion!"

I think most of us have just come to accept that’s how things are now. I don’t like it at all, but I know it’s what’s going to happen.

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

Disney Fans: "Stop the IP invasion!"

I don't understand - Mexico already has IP shoehorned into the pavilion, why not use a property that's actually respectful of the culture?

 

[Timothy_Q]

Disney Fans: "Stop the IP invasion!"

The mexico pavillion was already invaded by IP 15 years ago what are you talking about lol

Coco would be a much better fit for Epcot than the Caballeros since Coco is actually celebrating mexican culture accurately
Not to mention... Donald and Jose fit in Mexico just like "Star Lord visited Epcot as a kid"

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Forgive me for drifting back on-topic, but this seemed pertinent to the thread:

Disney World Imagineer addresses fan interest in villains land from D23

Disney World Imagineer Chris Beatty responds to fan reaction to D23 concept art showing a potential villains land at Magic Kingdom: 'We took note.'

ew.com

 

[JoeCamel]

Forgive me for drifting back on-topic, but this seemed pertinent to the thread:

Disney World Imagineer addresses fan interest in villains land from D23

Disney World Imagineer Chris Beatty responds to fan reaction to D23 concept art showing a potential villains land at Magic Kingdom: 'We took note.'

ew.com

The problem is that the mouse is mass merchandising their builds so trying to judge interest by applause at a hardcore fan event as what the GP would spend for might not be the best yardstick to use.