News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

co10064

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It wouldn’t matter, the vast majority of people will never weigh the two as options. They’re not going to choose to go to a smaller theme park resort that’s farther away, and that’s not advertised by the company or familiar among their friends/family. Universal or SeaWorld are the alternatives.
IMO the only way to level-out attendance at MK is to make the other 3 Florida parks more alluring/enjoyable, or *maybe* open a third US resort with its own castle park equivalent (never going to happen) to draw people away from WDW as a whole.
 

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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It wouldn’t matter, the vast majority of people will never weigh the two as options. They’re not going to choose to go to a smaller theme park resort that’s farther away, and that’s not advertised by the company or familiar among their friends/family. Universal or SeaWorld are the alternatives.
It would help to remind people Disneyland exists as the Olympics, World Cup, etc. approach. Honestly it will require a greater “Visit California” campaign which I realize as America has become more polarized people may be predisposed not to visit the state for their own reasons. Likewise, this works both ways as the inverse may be true for Florida as well.
 

BrianLo

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I get that. I absolutely do.

Do you get my point?

I do get that point actually, it's different than the Universal comparator though somewhat. I'm of the opinion almost all parks need some form of attention. AK most drastically needs more draws as the park that fell to the bottom of the recency pile. MK simply is never going to dissuade crowds, no matter how great the other parks get, so it also makes sense to make more room within its gate. Epcot has under-utilized spaced and DHS is likely overpacked for how big it is. Probably the only park that's currently built up correctly in Orlando is IOA.

DLR did achieve this fairly well. Yes, SW:GE seems weirdly annexed, but it's actually relatively pleasant place to visit in what is usually the second busiest park. MK would benefit from a physical space expansion as well.
 

Alanzo

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The fact that DCA is even in the conversation is impressive! Grizzly River run sure takes up a lot of space, huh!
 

MrPromey

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Pixar Pier represents the mandate to be “more timeless, more relevant, more Disney” = corporate lingo for More IP = More $$$. That’s it.

Pixar Pier repents them trying to salvage a less than winning original concept that was intended to pay homage to a type of park Walt didn't particularly like that was originally built to pad out the ride count of the new park sitting next to Disneyland (highest attraction count of any Disney park in the world) on a shoestring budget.

Clearly, the original concept didn't work so it's not exactly shocking that the overlay doesn't really, either.

It just makes it more Disney and a little less Santa Monica Pier.

It’s like taking original flavor licorice* sticks and reshaping them as Mickey figures.

Yeah, now it's Mickey but it still tastes like chemical waste.


*Anyone who tries to tell me that licorice tastes good is just simply wrong. I respect all differences in opinion except when it comes to licorice. Licorice lovers are hitler.
 
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J4546

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In my opinion DCA was fixed in 2012. Then they broke it again with GOTG and Pixar Pier.
I like the gotg retheme personally, and Pixar Pier I don't see as a bad thing either though Im.not a fan of incredicoaster theming the coaster itself is still great imo as is the rest of the land. I like the old timey Pier park theming and Pixar Pier area has like 10 rides in it plus a great nighttime show, I think it's one of the better areas in any Disney park
 

ToTBellHop

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Pixar Pier repents them trying to salvage a less than winning original concept that was intended to pay homage to a type of park Walt didn't particularly like that was originally built to pad out the ride count of the new park sitting next to Disneyland (highest attraction count of any Disney park in the world) on a shoestring budget.

Clearly, the original concept didn't work so it's not exactly shocking that the overlay doesn't really, either.

It just makes it more Disney and a little less Santa Monica Pier.

It’s like taking original flavor licorice* sticks and reshaping them as Mickey figures.

Yeah, now it's Mickey but it still tastes like chemical waste.


*Anyone who tries to tell me that licorice tastes good is just simply wrong. I respect all differences in opinion except when it comes to licorice. Licorice lovers are hitler.
Sure, but they already redid Paradise Pier last decade and then redid it again. Waste of money.
 

SpectreJordan

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Fun fact - at one point Disney did attempt to port the Quinjet, Avengers and all, to EPCOT. It would have replaced WOL. They got too bullish when asking Uni if they could use the license and Uni responded by killing it stone cold dead. Ironically Uni's own Avengers E project (which would have replaced Doctor Room's Doom's Fearfall and backstage areas) stalled out and died at roughly the same period in time.
Any sources on this? I'm shocked either side would try an Avengers attraction in Orlando. It's pretty obvious that the other side would just tell them 'No'.
 

MagicHappens1971

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Any sources on this? I'm shocked either side would try an Avengers attraction in Orlando. It's pretty obvious that the other side would just tell them 'No'.
Disney can’t stop Universal from building a new attraction at Super Hero Island just because they feel like it. Some insider did post that Uni was planning an Avengers attraction to replace Doctor Doom.

Allegedly some Marvel attraction was also to replace WoL pavilion, but I don’t remember the exact source/info on that.
 

SpectreJordan

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Disney can’t stop Universal from building a new attraction at Super Hero Island just because they feel like it. Some insider did post that Uni was planning an Avengers attraction to replace Doctor Doom.

Allegedly some Marvel attraction was also to replace WoL pavilion, but I don’t remember the exact source/info on that.
I think I've heard in the past that Marvel has to approve any changes they make. If not, I bet Universal would've revamped their land years ago to better match modern Marvel. At the very least Meet & Greets with Iron Man, Black Panther, Thor & Black Widow.
 

lazyboy97o

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I think I've heard in the past that Marvel has to approve any changes they make. If not, I bet Universal would've revamped their land years ago to better match modern Marvel. At the very least Meet & Greets with Iron Man, Black Panther, Thor & Black Widow.
Marvel has reasonable approval. If a proposal follows the required style guides they’re not really allowed to deny approval.
 

Rich Brownn

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I think I've heard in the past that Marvel has to approve any changes they make. If not, I bet Universal would've revamped their land years ago to better match modern Marvel. At the very least Meet & Greets with Iron Man, Black Panther, Thor & Black Widow.
While Marvel has to approve changes, it cannot simply refuse to change - it has to be based on a reason in the contract. The contract stipulates the rides/shows/etc must be based on the comic versions only - the MCU is off limits. As an example, Hulk was updated. SpiderMan was updated with HD graphics. Universal is free to add attractions within the limits of the contract (certain characters, IOA only). Also there is actually a wall of separation between Marvel and Disney when it comes to Universal attractions - if Universal submits plans for approval, they are forbidden to share those plans with any Disney entity involved in theme parks (for obvious reasons).
 

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