Beginnings of Tomorrowland Revamp?

[irishmom58]

well great, that excludes me

 

[tman2000]

Yeah - it sucks that everything's a movie. There are some time-tested original attractions that had nothing to do with movies (well, originally) - they were just neat ideas that were fleshed out.

Now, it's a tie-in to a movie.

So, I've come up with this crazy idea that I think that they are moving Tomorrowland completely to future world, and will dump the future world thing and just make that place "Tomorrowland" a la Walt's original idea.

I think the film isn't meant to necessarily force TL to be this film-based, George Clooney thing, but rather it's to build a mythology around Tomorrowland that will facilitate this move to future world.

In other words, rather than just being a future-y part of a quaint 1955 family park that later got floating bumper cars, TL will now have a specific mythology.

What I like about what I think the movie's plot will be is that TL isn't going to just be some futuristic city with aliens and robots and what-have-you. They're trying to tie it to history, and to Walt himself. They're saying that the parks, the world's fair, all of it, was a real life part of this mythical TL place. So when we visit the film-based "tomorrowland" we're visiting a real part of Walt's vision, because they've linked this new mythology to history.

And so it really makes sense to tie tomorrowland itself to EPCOT. Since, tomorrowland is no longer just a future-y area of the quaint family part, but it is literally the "city of tomorrow" that sprung literally from the mind of Walt and other geniuses. This brings in the historical and fantastical themes of Disneyland into the future-y part.

Since TL in this new film is going to be a sort of E.P.C.O.T., it makes so much sense to migrate the land to EPCOT itself.

What the film is doing, then, isn't given us a new property that the parks now have to have "the presence of". It's just introducing an idea about what Tomorrowland is, that they can then use to accomplish the move of TL to EPCOT whether or not the movie is a phenomenal success.

 

[Communicore]

I prefer to just bring Tomorrowland back to the 60's and 70's, including restoring the last scene from CoP, invite 70's bands back to Cosmic's (and change its name back to Tomorrowland Terrace) and of course, bring the iconic Star Jets back too!

 

[ABQ]

I prefer to just bring Tomorrowland back to the 60's and 70's, including restoring the last scene from CoP, invite 70's bands back to Cosmic's (and change its name back to Tomorrowland Terrace) and of course, bring the iconic Star Jets back too!

All I want back is this:

 

[Monoblanco13]

All I want back is this:

Sad to say IDK what you are referencing

 

[ABQ]

Sad to say IDK what you are referencing

That's what the entrance to Tomorrowland used to look like, with the monolithic waterfalls rising up with even more waterfalls all around them. Now we have that big pile of fake rocks that somehow is supposed to represent the future? I'm not sure how, as we've got plenty of rock formations out here in the desert, they seem far more prehistoric than futuristic to me.

 

[Monoblanco13]

That's what the entrance to Tomorrowland used to look like, with the monolithic waterfalls rising up with even more waterfalls all around them. Now we have that big pile of fake rocks that somehow is supposed to represent the future? I'm not sure how, as we've got plenty of rock formations out here in the desert, they seem far more prehistoric than futuristic to me.

I thought that what you were talking about, any reason why the removal? I went as a kid in the 90's and starting going back last year

 

[ABQ]

I thought that what you were talking about, any reason why the removal? I went as a kid in the 90's and starting going back last year

I know wind gusts created quite a large wet zone, but I have to think there could be other ways to control the water other than a complete removal. Not sure what the thought process was, but it's not unlike the removal of the old EPCOT monolith atop the fountain ahead of SpaceShip Earth.

 

[Disney4family]

Well they are moving the turkey legs from Frontierland to the Cool Station in Tomorrowland

Do we eat them in the utilidors? After all, Walt didn't want to see a cowboy walk through Tomorrowland. He wouldn't want turkey legs there either, right?
Unless they're "mice-on-a-stick" to remove the problem at The Lunching Pad.

 

[Disney4family]

its temporary, they will be back in frontierland later this year.

Oh ok -sorry - I should read everyone's posts first. Need a dole whip float to recover.

 

[Monoblanco13]

I know wind gusts created quite a large wet zone, but I have to think there could be other ways to control the water other than a complete removal. Not sure what the thought process was, but it's not unlike the removal of the old EPCOT monolith atop the fountain ahead of SpaceShip Earth.

Thanks for the minor visit to yesterland now that you mention them I remember but it wasn't till it was pointed out. This is the area where Leave a Legacy is correct?

 

[Bocabear]

Yes this is currently the cemetery at the entrance to EPCOT. I think the giant lucite prism sculpture had begun showing it's age…Hazing, crazing and little cracks…Guess they decided to just remove it and the cost to replace it was too much… who knows. Such a shame they could not at least come up with a replacement instead of a big empty rock table with water… surrounded by tombstones….

 

[SMRT-1Michael]

All I want back is this:

Those were the days! Interestingly enough, Tokyo Disneyland still has those waterfalls...

 

[FigmentJedi]

So, I've come up with this crazy idea that I think that they are moving Tomorrowland completely to future world, and will dump the future world thing and just make that place "Tomorrowland" a la Walt's original idea.

I think the film isn't meant to necessarily force TL to be this film-based, George Clooney thing, but rather it's to build a mythology around Tomorrowland that will facilitate this move to future world.

In other words, rather than just being a future-y part of a quaint 1955 family park that later got floating bumper cars, TL will now have a specific mythology.

What I like about what I think the movie's plot will be is that TL isn't going to just be some futuristic city with aliens and robots and what-have-you. They're trying to tie it to history, and to Walt himself. They're saying that the parks, the world's fair, all of it, was a real life part of this mythical TL place. So when we visit the film-based "tomorrowland" we're visiting a real part of Walt's vision, because they've linked this new mythology to history.

Problem is Disney is also doing Miles from Tomorrowland, which is very much based on the "spaceport town with aliens" we've had in the parks since the 90s deal, complete with a "Tomorrowland Transit Authority" that the family works for.

Tomorrowland isn't gonna be an exercise in creating a new DEEPEST LORE property, it's more like the theme park movie equivalent to Once Upon a Time/The Live-Action remakes of animated films where live-action is serious business/elaborately plotted/subversive/can't really be reconciled with other material compared to their lighter-hearted animated counterparts. Except unlike all those movies/shows, Tomorrowland's probably not gonna suck.

 

[azox]

All I want back is this:

I agree this looks very cool. Ironically, while we probably won't see this sort of dual water fall on either side of the entrance to tomorrow land, it does look like they might be doing something similar with the new King Kong ride over at Universal The entrance is flanked with two heads high up that look like they will have water pouring out of them

 

[Brad Bishop]

All I want back is this:

Those futuristic waterfalls were some of my favorite things. I always thought that they were really neat and it always bugged me to see them turned off. They'd turn them off it if were breezy because the mist from them would get guests wet.

It was just a neat, majestic entryway into Tomorrowland.

 

[Prototype82]

Or they could eliminate intellectual properties entirely and make it actually about tomorrow.

Well that's what we'd all want, but this is Disney we are talking about.

If it worked that way, Epcot wouldn't be the Nemo, Frozen, Three Cabelleros mess that it is. This is Magic Kingdom though. It can have franchises. EPCOT the park COULD be the new Tomorrowland... Test Track and the gutting of half of Innoventions is promising...

 

[jensenrick]

All I want back is this:

I have to agree with this- this entrance was both beautiful and timeless. A lot less "dated" than some other crap that is still around WDW.

 

[Monoblanco13]

Just heard from a Jim Hill podcast that Captain Eo will be replaced by Inside-out and that within the movie they go to Imagination land where Figment is seen in the background. What's Jim Hill's track record?

 

[Monoblanco13]

Meh

I always rank him as "interesting" and give it no more weight than that.

Well it would be nice if it were true, I'd like to see some changes in the pipeline for Epcot.