Beginnings of Tomorrowland Revamp?

Dice50

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Jackie Chan - let me break it down for you. There is a ride at Disneyworld in Japan called "Journey to the center of the earth" if you haven't been there you should watch the video of it. I think it would be cool to use that ride as a platform for a new ride in Tommorland. Make sense?
 

Bing Bong

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Jackie Chan - let me break it down for you. There is a ride at Disneyworld in Japan called "Journey to the center of the earth" if you haven't been there you should watch the video of it. I think it would be cool to use that ride as a platform for a new ride in Tommorland. Make sense?
I know what it is... Just what you said is so off and now this reply is even worse. UGH my brain hurts.
 

iAJ

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This is the area of MK that I think needs the most attention. It's just a big concrete wasteland. I like the view at night with the neon but during the day it's very...meh. As I've said before, there is a lot of potential with many if the IP's WDW currently has out there that address the scientific and future community. Or, here's an idea, do something not tied to an IP.....
As if they'll ever do that again in the foreseeable future. So sad it all has to be IP based now.
 

The Rocketeer

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Jackie Chan - let me break it down for you. There is a ride at Disneyworld in Japan called "Journey to the center of the earth" if you haven't been there you should watch the video of it. I think it would be cool to use that ride as a platform for a new ride in Tommorland. Make sense?
There is only one "disneyworld" and that is Walt Disney World. You're referring to Tokyo Disneyland or Tokyo DisneySea.
 

Pinhead

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If it does, it won't be a pretty sight. Let's not hope for that, OK?
Buzz, Stitch, MI Laugh Floor and Astro represent the kiddification of Tomorrowland. Codgers like us (yeah, I also remember the good old days when the AAs ran on punch cards) get dragged to these attractions by the grandkids, but we can't persuade them to take a second ride on the COP ever again. The COP would be a more appropriate signature ride for Future World than Spaceship Earth, although I don't dispute the fact that the big shiny golf ball is an awesome park icon. However, I doubt that the bean counters could justify moving COP to FW, even if the dominant demographic would probably wait in long lines for this classic. If only real life were more like Roller Coaster Tycoon...
 

Dice50

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There is only one "disneyworld" and that is Walt Disney World. You're referring to Tokyo Disneyland or Tokyo DisneySea.

Correct, it's at Tokyo DisneySea. However, most people, call the parks overseas "Disneyworld Paris, Disneyworld Japan, it's not their correct name of course, but how the average person refers to them.
 

Dice50

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Buzz, Stitch, MI Laugh Floor and Astro represent the kiddification of Tomorrowland. Codgers like us (yeah, I also remember the good old days when the AAs ran on punch cards) get dragged to these attractions by the grandkids, but we can't persuade them to take a second ride on the COP ever again. The COP would be a more appropriate signature ride for Future World than Spaceship Earth, although I don't dispute the fact that the big shiny golf ball is an awesome park icon. However, I doubt that the bean counters could justify moving COP to FW, even if the dominant demographic would probably wait in long lines for this classic. If only real life were more like Roller Coaster Tycoon...

I'd be curious to know the attendance at COP. It has to be among the lowest of all attractions at the park. I don't think many people would miss it at all.
 

Dice50

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I would miss it. A lot.

I know the feeling, I really liked the Mr. Toad ride, and miss it. We shouldn't have to choose which rides will get torn down for new rides, but sadly that seems to be the only way this happens now. Look at EPCOT they wanted to put in a Frozen ride (which doesn't belong there) so they take out the Norway ride, why? There's plenty of unused open space or shops, restaurants, buildings, for new rides.
 

The Rocketeer

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I'd be curious to know the attendance at COP. It has to be among the lowest of all attractions at the park. I don't think many people would miss it at all.
It is historically important. Many people say it was Walt's favorite attraction. It is the only ride in WDW to be physically touched by Walt Disney himself. I would say the lowest attendance would be Hall of Presidents or The Enchanted Tiki Room, but still thousands of people see it in a day. The TTA never has long lines either, just saying. I would miss it terribly.
 

wdwfan757

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Beyond it's historical value, CoP is a fantastic way to avoid the mid-day sun. I didn't appreciate it until I was in DL in the early September melting to death and realized that Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln and Innoventions was the only heat respite in a park full of unshaded queues. Heck, I even missed Stitch at that point.
 

RSoxNo1

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It is historically important. Many people say it was Walt's favorite attraction. It is the only ride in WDW to be physically touched by Walt Disney himself. I would say the lowest attendance would be Hall of Presidents or The Enchanted Tiki Room, but still thousands of people see it in a day. The TTA never has long lines either, just saying. I would miss it terribly.
I sincerely believe that Carousel of Progress is not only significant to the Disney company, but culturally signifcant as well. The attraction is the most performed stage show in the history of the planet and it celebrates the American family through the years. Beyond that, it is located in the number one tourist destination for families in the world. While it's popularity is very low, as an attraction it is not lowly rated. Moreover, it has been neglected for 22 years.

The relevance of the story and the emphasis on family and progress really make this an obvious choice for Epcot. I love the idea of this being an extension of the Horizons concept and I think every fanboy would be overwhelmed if Carousel of Progress moved to Future World East as part of a new pavilion (perhaps on the Wonders of Life footprint). I would suggest an old but new concept for a Horizons style attraction (for kicks, let's call it Century 3). The options for the ride system have increased significantly since Horizons debuted, but a suspended system could work with vehicles that have an even greater range of motion. This could be mini Soarin' style suspended seats to a regular or potentially even suspended Kuka arm.

At this point I'm well beyond the stage where this post belongs in the Imagineering forum, but if Disney truly wants to revitalize Epcot the bandaid solutions of Frozen aren't the only answer. To steal a line from the worst script in the history of Spaceship Earth, "The answers lie in our past." This doesn't mean bring back the 1983 versions of Epcot attractions, but it does mean they can use the spirit of those attractions and tell those stories in new ways.
 

The Rocketeer

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I sincerely believe that Carousel of Progress is not only significant to the Disney company, but culturally signifcant as well. The attraction is the most performed stage show in the history of the planet and it celebrates the American family through the years. Beyond that, it is located in the number one tourist destination for families in the world. While it's popularity is very low, as an attraction it is not lowly rated. Moreover, it has been neglected for 22 years.

The relevance of the story and the emphasis on family and progress really make this an obvious choice for Epcot. I love the idea of this being an extension of the Horizons concept and I think every fanboy would be overwhelmed if Carousel of Progress moved to Future World East as part of a new pavilion (perhaps on the Wonders of Life footprint). I would suggest an old but new concept for a Horizons style attraction (for kicks, let's call it Century 3). The options for the ride system have increased significantly since Horizons debuted, but a suspended system could work with vehicles that have an even greater range of motion. This could be mini Soarin' style suspended seats to a regular or potentially even suspended Kuka arm.

At this point I'm well beyond the stage where this post belongs in the Imagineering forum, but if Disney truly wants to revitalize Epcot the bandaid solutions of Frozen aren't the only answer. To steal a line from the worst script in the history of Spaceship Earth, "The answers lie in our past." This doesn't mean bring back the 1983 versions of Epcot attractions, but it does mean they can use the spirit of those attractions and tell those stories in new ways.
I agree. We don't need 1980's attractions to return that would fail miserably for today's world and today's audiences, but we need new experiences that have the same spirit of those attractions.
 

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