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Backward Preceptions
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Mickeyman819
Member
I would think that the vehicle to spin around . It could have a seperate motor that turns it around like at the halffway point.
The_CEO
Well-Known Member
I put together a diagram to explain to you all how this is going to work.
Its not a track layout.. More of an explantation for the people who don't understand what we are talking about.
1. The train will pull up to there..
2. The train will travel backwards over 2.
3. It will head into the Cave.
Over head view.
It won't use any turn tables to turn it around. It will simply use a Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Station Switch Back.
Its not a track layout.. More of an explantation for the people who don't understand what we are talking about.
1. The train will pull up to there..
2. The train will travel backwards over 2.
3. It will head into the Cave.
Over head view.
It won't use any turn tables to turn it around. It will simply use a Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Station Switch Back.
It's a simple switchback!
The_CEO
Well-Known Member
I also belive, well would be a good idea, for the lift to be Cable.
Just like Millennium Force at Cedar Point. It offers no clicking * Aka Rollback Teeth * It also is versable in it can stop at any time. Speed can be adjusted and its durable.
This can easily bring it through diffrent scenes and stop at any time.
Just like Millennium Force at Cedar Point. It offers no clicking * Aka Rollback Teeth * It also is versable in it can stop at any time. Speed can be adjusted and its durable.
This can easily bring it through diffrent scenes and stop at any time.
Defend10
Member
The same thing can be done very easily with, for example, a tire drive system. Or a traditional lift with padded anti-rollbacks, such as Dueling Dragons at nearby IoA or many other B&M creations across the world.
Any system can stop at any time, the motors can easily be adjusted, but I wouldn't call the Millenium Force system any more durable than a chain lift. The elevator cable has broken before, the ride was frequent with problems like this in it's first year.
The silent lift has also been done before by disney with LIMs ala California Screamin' at DCA. The cable lift just is too much $$ with a little extra risk when a chain or tire drive, both extremely proven, or even LIMs, which Disney has dealt with before, could work just fine.
-Matthew
Florida Man
Active Member
I totally agree with you, but instead of holding the brakes they could use LIMS to power you up a vertical piece of track high enough that they have time to switch the tracks before you come back down. (AIR TIME!!!) Imagine you blast off on Superman the Escape on one piece of track but come down backwards on a different piece of track.
Also, a lot of people are talking about Disney’s press conference. I must have missed it or something because I didn’t hear any of these things. Does anybody have a transcript of it?
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imagineer99
New Member
I can only imagine how cool this ride is going to turn out! Bring on the Yeti!
P.S. CEO, your avatar rocks.
P.S. CEO, your avatar rocks.
The_CEO
Well-Known Member
Transport Wheels are a possiblity. Although anything can be stopped with the right sensor placement. It being disney, I belive they will go with the ole' fashion Chain Lift.
LIMS on Screamin are hearable.
Impulse coasters, ie. Intamin AG use a specific LIM system thats very 'Screamy'. You can hear it from far away. California Screamin was built by Intamin AG and man does it scream.
Now Vekoma also produces LIM Coasters, hence, RnR.
Those are silent, as you only hear the coaster run. I do belive the coaster has to become attached to a ' pully' system and get pulled on all Vekoma launches. As its not a direct launch.
But Screamin and all I.A.G. coasters are direct contact.
Again the question comes down to what will Everest use. Like you stated above, MF did have a cable failure. Can't try to cover that one lol.
Depending on the theme, they will prob use a chain hill. But maybe they will suprise us
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ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
The Vekoma LIM w/ the rope and pully wouldn't really work here b/c there would be a tremendous delay b/t sending trains through (have to let it roll back down the lift). It works for RnR because the launch is 3 seconds, but this lift hill will integrate show scenes and will take probably a minute. Direct contact LIMs would work, but as Justin said, this type of LIM is pretty loud. Elevator lift, I like, as it allows for stop-and-go, sudden acceleration, has no noise, and even allows for steeper lift hills. The elevator lift system had problems because it was new, much like LIMs had problems when they were new--even RnR had problems during its initial testing. No matter what, this happens w/ all new rides. As for the snow...it'll be real Wear your winter coat on this one! Stopping guests for the switchback isn't too much of a challenge...at the top of the lift hill, have the train drop about 5 feet to get some speed, then head up a slight incline toward LIM brakes, and stop the train. As the switchback switches, and a show scene taking place ends, quietly release the LIMs, and the train will slowly roll seamlessly backwards onto the new track If done right, guests won't know what happened!
Wear your winter coat on this one! Stopping guests for the switchback isn't too much of a challenge...at the top of the lift hill, have the train drop about 5 feet to get some speed, then head up a slight incline toward LIM brakes, and stop the train. As the switchback switches, and a show scene taking place ends, quietly release the LIMs, and the train will slowly roll seamlessly backwards onto the new track If done right, guests won't know what happened!