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tenchu

tenchu

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Originally posted by WDWFREAK53
Seriously...this is morally wrong and it truly is scary...SCIENCE is becoming TOO POWERFUL. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE "INVENTED"
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What's everyone views on how far science should actually go?

I'm studying biology, so i deal with this sort of stuff all the time, but i really can't decide.

I do agree with stem cell research, but I'm not sure how much further it should go.

The news that they now want to create 'Human/mouse hybrids' to further research just seems a bit too far for me.
 
garyhoov

garyhoov

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Originally posted by tenchu
What's everyone views on how far science should actually go?

I'm studying biology, so i deal with this sort of stuff all the time, but i really can't decide.

I do agree with stem cell research, but I'm not sure how much further it should go.

The news that they now want to create 'Human/mouse hybrids' to further research just seems a bit too far for me.
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I think a big mistake people make is pointing fingers at science rather than people. Hitler did some terrible things without the benefit of high tech. Science is just a tool and it's our responsibility to make sure the tool is used wisely.

It's possible for someone to take a hammer and whack someone else over the head with it. That doesn't mean we should make hammers illegal.
 
tenchu

tenchu

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Originally posted by garyhoov
I think a big mistake people make is pointing fingers at science rather than people. Hitler did some terrible things without the benefit of high tech. Science is just a tool and it's our responsibility to make sure the tool is used wisely.

It's possible for someone to take a hammer and whack someone else over the head with it. That doesn't mean we should make hammers illegal.
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Exactly, i agree with you there, but there have to be limits somewhere.

There will always be someone who wants to go over that line.
 
garyhoov

garyhoov

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Originally posted by tenchu
Exactly, i agree with you there, but there have to be limits somewhere.

There will always be someone who wants to go over that line.
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Yes, and I sidestepped your question by not defining what that line is. Every person will probably have a different definition of the line just like most things that we regulate in our society. People have managed for the past 5000 years to balance right vs. wrong, legal vs. illegal and I don't think the basic nature of society is changed by new technologies today any more than they were changed by the introduction of mass production at the turn of last century. We'll figure it out.
 
Debbie

Debbie

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I'm curious as to what the so called 'benefits' are by cloning another human?
I don't have the wisdom nor the knowledge on the subject to comment. I'll leave this to Tramp or Mom's dept. (or any other person educated on this issue)
 
no2apprentice

no2apprentice

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Originally posted by garyhoov
People have managed for the past 5000 years to balance right vs. wrong, legal vs. illegal and I don't think the basic nature of society is changed by new technologies today any more than they were changed by the introduction of mass production at the turn of last century. We'll figure it out.
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I truly wonder about this, Gary. Twenty years ago, I might have agreed. But more and more, I wonder if our technology is advancing faster than our ability as a species of "enlightened" beings to make the ethical and correct decisions in the use of our new technology.

Forget the "cloning a baby" issue for a moment. Right now there is a lab trying to create a new, unique, strain of life. That's right, good people, life. Not a clone, but life from scratch. And for those of you who missed this info, they are modifying the DNA/gene sequence so it will be very controllable in a lab environment. If this lab succeeds, this opens a whole new world of potential horrors.
 
garyhoov

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Originally posted by Debbie
I'm curious as to what the so called 'benefits' are by cloning another human?
I don't have the wisdom nor the knowledge on the subject to comment. I'll leave this to Tramp or Mom's dept. (or any other person educated on this issue)
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Well, don't consider this an endorsement, but imagine a young, infertile company that wants to have a baby. If the man is infertile, they have two choices: Adopt or get donor sperm. Either way, they will be having "someone else's baby". If they want a baby that isn't the offspring of someone other than the couple, the only option would be cloning. By cloning either the man or woman, they could have their own child.

Also, we are approaching the possibility of cloning cells. It may soon be possible to "clone" cells from someones liver, culture them and allow the person to be his or her own transplant recipient. If anti-cloning legislation is written too broadly it cold prevent something like this.
 
garyhoov

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Originally posted by no2apprentice
I truly wonder about this, Gary. Twenty years ago, I might have agreed. But more and more, I wonder if our technology is advancing faster than our ability as a species of "enlightened" beings to make the ethical and correct decisions in the use of our new technology.

Forget the "cloning a baby" issue for a moment. Right now there is a lab trying to create a new, unique, strain of life. That's right, good people, life. Not a clone, but life from scratch. And for those of you who missed this info, they are modifying the DNA/gene sequence so it will be very controllable in a lab environment. If this lab succeeds, this opens a whole new world of potential horrors.
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A very good point, and I think this is why it is important to follow these issues closely and understand them as well as possible.

I think society in general will do the right things, but there will inevitably be individuals who will do the wrong things. That was true 2000 years ago, and it will be true 2000 years from now.

I see man as an extension of God and science as an extension of man. The choices we make were given to us by God. While people generally talk about our faith in God, I think this is an issue that raises God's faith in us.
 
Debbie

Debbie

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Thanks for clearing that up for me Gary. So noone would have to be infertile, thus no need to adopt a baby that might have gotten a good home because mom and dad decided to clone themselves? Cloning people may bring disasterous consequences beyond adoption etc.
Yet being able to replicate an organ may prevent a child from becoming an orphan, if their parents could be saved from a terminal illness? That could be a good thing......
This issue could be the next hot topic of the century.
 

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