Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

[Professortango1]

Hondos gotta go though. Such a poor choice for one of the best AAs around. Obscure character with an annoying voice.

Smugglers Run will never be great but it could be a lot better than what it is. Give us 3 missions/ planets that actually remind people of Star Wars instead of the one on Gray Corellia.

I don't have any issue with Hondo. I don't watch the cartoons, so I don't know who he is from a canon perspective, but he's an interesting character and works well as an AA/prosthetic character. The issues with Smugglers Run are not because of Hondo.

Boring lifeless queue, entry into Falcon messy, not enough time in Falcon, CGI video game feel for attraction, video game elements on tracks where interaction doesn't really matter, lack of spatial awareness when designing the videos (did they forget that the Falcon's cockpit is on the SIDE of sizable ship?), watered down Star Tours motion, lack of advertised multiple missions. I don't care if Harrison Ford came down to personally greet us in the Hondo scene, these issues would still be there and why the ride would still be mediocre.

 

[Professortango1]

Galaxy's Edge takes place after 8 and before 9. So no Luke.

But Kylo's mask isn't broken. I think Luke would be fine. Give Luke a training show where kids get to move stuff with the Force and he gets to make sarcastic comments. I'd watch that. I mean, they could even have Palpatine and his jar of Snokes in a meet and greet.

 

[CaptinEO]

But Kylo's mask isn't broken. I think Luke would be fine. Give Luke a training show where kids get to move stuff with the Force and he gets to make sarcastic comments. I'd watch that. I mean, they could even have Palpatine and his jar of Snokes in a meet and greet.

I'm just letting you know that his mask should be broken and Disney themselves put Batuu in this timeline (after 8 and before 9).

Also old man sarcastic Luke is one of the biggest complaints of any Star Wars fan for the sequel trilogy and a big betrayal to the character (so much so that Mark Hamill expressed his dissatisfaction with it and disagreements with it as well). Please keep the bad Luke out of Star Wars.

 

[Professortango1]

To bring it back to the topic, (forgot what thread I was in), AC does suffer some the of same issues by trying to make it an immersive and connected land. They keep trying to do a Wizarding World while forgetting...Wizarding World opened AFTER the movies concluded. There were no ongoing films that were going to muck up the timeline they were creating.

Like, Disney could create an Indiana Jones Land because that franchise is essentially done. They could do a Tron Land for the same reason (thank you Tron Legacy for securing that). Avengers and Star Wars are still incredibly active, so trying to make things fit together is damn near impossible. The world is too build and constantly changing to try and create an immersive narrative environment. That's why the land is nothing but large generic feeling backdrops.

As much as I am burnt out on the Original Trilogy, that is the positive to an alternative world's Galaxy's Edge themed to the OT. Well, so long as Disney can stop dipping into the same polluted well to try and recontextualize everything. Who knows what wacky things Obi Wan will introduce that break more elements of the stories/world.

They could/should have created a Superhero City land in DHS that works as a fictional hybrid just like how Fantasyland works as a loose European Medieval town that allows these stories to fit but keep their own identity. They could have given us a West Coast Avengers themed experience in the Hollywoodland area of DCA. Mysterio could be a link to Hollywood for a Spiderman attraction set out in Hollywood.

We didn't need an entire land. All the land has given us is a downgraded TOT overlay and a mediocre clone of Midway Mania. A replacement and a re-do isn't a real gain.

 

[Professortango1]

I'm just letting you know that his mask should be broken and Disney themselves put Batuu in this timeline (after 8 and before 9).

Also old man sarcastic Luke is one of the biggest complaints of any Star Wars fan for the sequel trilogy and a big betrayal to the character (so much so that Mark Hamill expressed his dissatisfaction with it and disagreements with it as well). Please keep the bad Luke out of Star Wars.

I'm a Star Wars fan as are many friends and we loved Luke's arc. Luke's journey in 8 is my favourite Star Wars journey. I love Mark Hamill as a celebrity, but I don't look to him for character work advice. It is kind of like when Anthony Daniels starts spouting off about C-3PO and how important he is. Their views lack perspective. He was perfect for Luke in the OT. A cute and fun blank slate to act as the audience surrogate. Many of Hamill's comments were also about his initial takes before he and Johnson began to work through things. And as a result, its my favorite Hamill performance.

I'd rather have interesting Luke than whatever that was in Mandalorian/Book of Boba Fett. Give me a comedic older LA area actor training kids and making quips and I'm sold. That sounds like a blast.

 

[Disney Irish]

To bring it back to the topic, (forgot what thread I was in), AC does suffer some the of same issues by trying to make it an immersive and connected land. They keep trying to do a Wizarding World while forgetting...Wizarding World opened AFTER the movies concluded. There were no ongoing films that were going to muck up the timeline they were creating.

Like, Disney could create an Indiana Jones Land because that franchise is essentially done. They could do a Tron Land for the same reason (thank you Tron Legacy for securing that). Avengers and Star Wars are still incredibly active, so trying to make things fit together is damn near impossible. The world is too build and constantly changing to try and create an immersive narrative environment. That's why the land is nothing but large generic feeling backdrops.

As much as I am burnt out on the Original Trilogy, that is the positive to an alternative world's Galaxy's Edge themed to the OT. Well, so long as Disney can stop dipping into the same polluted well to try and recontextualize everything. Who knows what wacky things Obi Wan will introduce that break more elements of the stories/world.

They could/should have created a Superhero City land in DHS that works as a fictional hybrid just like how Fantasyland works as a loose European Medieval town that allows these stories to fit but keep their own identity. They could have given us a West Coast Avengers themed experience in the Hollywoodland area of DCA. Mysterio could be a link to Hollywood for a Spiderman attraction set out in Hollywood.

We didn't need an entire land. All the land has given us is a downgraded TOT overlay and a mediocre clone of Midway Mania. A replacement and a re-do isn't a real gain.

Indy 5 will being coming out next year.

Tron 3 had gotten a revival, starring Jared Leto, and while not yet filming does sound like its moving forward again.

 

[mickEblu]

I don't have any issue with Hondo. I don't watch the cartoons, so I don't know who he is from a canon perspective, but he's an interesting character and works well as an AA/prosthetic character. The issues with Smugglers Run are not because of Hondo.

Boring lifeless queue, entry into Falcon messy, not enough time in Falcon, CGI video game feel for attraction, video game elements on tracks where interaction doesn't really matter, lack of spatial awareness when designing the videos (did they forget that the Falcon's cockpit is on the SIDE of sizable ship?), watered down Star Tours motion, lack of advertised multiple missions. I don't care if Harrison Ford came down to personally greet us in the Hondo scene, these issues would still be there and why the ride would still be mediocre.

Yeah Hondo isn’t the only issue with the attraction but it’s one of them IMO. I’d say your list pretty much covers it. I think Smugglers Run is the second most disappointing attraction of at least the last decade when you consider expectations. I have it right behind the Mario Kart ride.

 

[CaptinEO]

I'm a Star Wars fan as are many friends and we loved Luke's arc. Luke's journey in 8 is my favourite Star Wars journey. I love Mark Hamill as a celebrity, but I don't look to him for character work advice. It is kind of like when Anthony Daniels starts spouting off about C-3PO and how important he is. Their views lack perspective. He was perfect for Luke in the OT. A cute and fun blank slate to act as the audience surrogate. Many of Hamill's comments were also about his initial takes before he and Johnson began to work through things. And as a result, its my favorite Hamill performance.

I'd rather have interesting Luke than whatever that was in Mandalorian/Book of Boba Fett. Give me a comedic older LA area actor training kids and making quips and I'm sold. That sounds like a blast.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I was reallly looking forward to seeing him the most in the ST and felt like it was more of a character betrayal than an arc to me.

I wish I liked it though!

"Interesting Luke" is one name for it hahaha.

 

[ParkPeeker]

not enough time in Falcon, CGI video game feel for attraction, video game elements on tracks where interaction doesn't really matter, lack of spatial awareness when designing the videos (did they forget that the Falcon's cockpit is on the SIDE of sizable ship?), watered down Star Tours motion, lack of advertised multiple missions. I don't care if Harrison Ford came down to personally greet us in the Hondo scene, these issues would still be there and why the ride would still be mediocre.

I’ve been to galaxy’s edge a couple times and while MFSR can be improved on alot, it’s somehow a better ride to me overall than ROTR.

ROTR on paper and in real life is more impressive technically, and bigger in scale. Yet something about it just doesn’t impress or wows me. I posted this somewhere here last year, but I much more enjoy Indy. And for some reason ROTR doesn’t stand out to me.

Yet while MFSR isn’t really impressive, it stands out and is a Funner experience. I think it’s for a couple of reasons. 1. it’s not completely interactive (too on the rails as you said, predetermined path) but it gives enough of an illusion that you’re in control. 2. More importantly, if you’re in a party with 5 or 6 close friends or family, the whole ride is all to yourself and this really adds to the fun of the ride.
It’s this private little enclosed cockpit that you and your close party have to yourselves, controlling this whole thing and laughing throughout the whole ride, it feels personal with just that.

I always have a better time here than ROTR

 

[D.Silentu]

....lack of spatial awareness when designing the videos (did they forget that the Falcon's cockpit is on the SIDE of sizable ship?)

Not to spur any more talk of Star Wars in this thread, but I have heard a reason for this. Apparently, when they were doing test runs for the ride, people couldn't reconcile the notion that they were oriented to the right of the ship. Their, albeit inaccurate solution was to simply center the cockpit's perspective.

 

[Professortango1]

Indy 5 will being coming out next year.

Tron 3 had gotten a revival, starring Jared Leto, and while not yet filming does sound like its moving forward again.

That's why I said essentially for Indy. Whatever they do with the 5th one, it won't affect the original trilogy I'm guessing. As for Tron...well, Disney has always been a glutton for punishment with their live action films. Seems like they had Pirates and a good bout of Marvel and rest are all mediocre misses or cringeworthy flops. I thought Tron was corny when riding through it in the late 80's/early 90's and the new film was slightly better, but its a silly concept that doesn't work to well. It just feels like made for TV Matrix fan fic.

 

[Disney Irish]

That's why I said essentially for Indy. Whatever they do with the 5th one, it won't affect the original trilogy I'm guessing. As for Tron...well, Disney has always been a glutton for punishment with their live action films. Seems like they had Pirates and a good bout of Marvel and rest are all mediocre misses or cringeworthy flops. I thought Tron was corny when riding through it in the late 80's/early 90's and the new film was slightly better, but its a silly concept that doesn't work to well. It just feels like made for TV Matrix fan fic.

Well it depends on if they use this one to pass the Indy mantle onto a new generation, effectively rebooting the franchise. They sort of tried to do that with Shia in Crystal Skull, but that didn't end up well. So we'll see what they do here, but the rumors I've seen is to try and soft reboot it enough to they can make more in the future.

As for Tron, I enjoyed Legacy and wanted to see the story continue. I like the concept of the Grid and the ISOs wanted to explore it more, especially if Sam and Quora could bring the Grid into the real world and rebuild the ISOs. We'll see if the Jared Leto backed project gets made, but I'm all for more Tron content whether a new movie or a D+ series, especially if the series uses Tron: Uprising as a jumping off point.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Just an update to say that the Moon Knight appearance is super cool even if there's not much to it -

Spoiler

after dark, he appears on the upper Quinjet level of Avengers HQ in a puff of smoke, then makes a few intimidating quick moves that are actually super spooky and effective, then he works his cape fabulously and then repeats. He also appears on the main balcony level, does his quick turn/glares at you with glowing eyes, tosses the cape beautifully, then drops and disappears.

I loved it. It was so atmospheric. Though I'd say more than half the people there didn't know who he was, enough kept shouting "look, it's Moon Knight" to get people interested in finding out more. #missionaccomplished

 

[mickEblu]

How do we feel about it be confirmed that Cosmic Rewind has no AAs? Story telling Omnicoaster with no AAs? Gotta love that Bobby Paycheck. My excitement for this attraction has diminished a little bit hearing this. Not just because of the lack of AAs but because it implies heavy budget cuts.

 

[D.Silentu]

How do we feel about it be confirmed that Cosmic Rewind has no AAs?

I didn't really expect them on the ride but I can hardly believe that there isn't one in the preshow. Not using them on the attraction, but showcasing one in the build up seemed to be the Disney playbook lately. Yet Webslingers doesn't have one in the preshow either so I hope this isn't the new trend.

 

[mickEblu]

I didn't really expect them on the ride but I can hardly believe that there isn't one in the preshow. Not using them on the attraction, but showcasing one in the build up seemed to be the Disney playbook lately. Yet Webslingers doesn't have one in the preshow either so I hope this isn't the new trend.

I guess I assumed when they said “storytelling” that there would be at least one elaborate scene before the coaster launch and/ or at the end of the ride. Something in addition to screens and projections. For sure thought there would at least be a couple in the pre show as the concept art indicated

 

[No Name]

How do we feel about it be confirmed that Cosmic Rewind has no AAs? Story telling Omnicoaster with no AAs? Gotta love that Bobby Paycheck. My excitement for this attraction has diminished a little bit hearing this. Not just because of the lack of AAs but because it implies heavy budget cuts.

You probably read my opinion/quarrels in the other thread but basically I think it’s too early to write the whole thing off or even decide if it hurts the ride. The Tower of Terror has/had no AAs and it works (although the Rocket AA in Mission Breakout also works). Nor do the other two rides on that side of future world, nor do most coasters they’ve built, etc. As long as they make the decision that works best for what they’re trying to do, I personally don’t care if there’s 200 AAs or 0. Of course I have no confidence that’ll be the case.

To your last point, the ride still cost around $450 million according to Martin (I bolded for emphasis like TP does). It’s possibly the most expensive ride ever built, and that’s what it was originally budgeted for. So if anything, it’s technically budget overruns/constraints instead of cuts. But with $450 million and no AAs it does raise the question of where the money’s gone.

 

[WDWJoeG]

You probably read my opinion/quarrels in the other thread but basically I think it’s too early to write the whole thing off or even decide if it hurts the ride. The Tower of Terror has/had no AAs and it works (although the Rocket AA in Mission Breakout also works). Nor do the other two rides on that side of future world, nor do most coasters they’ve built, etc. As long as they make the decision that works best for what they’re trying to do, I personally don’t care if there’s 200 AAs or 0. Of course I have no confidence that’ll be the case.

To your last point, the ride still cost around $450 million according to Martin (I bolded for emphasis like TP does). It’s possibly the most expensive ride ever built, and that’s what it was originally budgeted for. So if anything, it’s technically budget overruns/constraints instead of cuts. But with $450 million and no AAs it does raise the question of where the money’s gone.

Painting roofs ain't cheap!

 

[mickEblu]

You probably read my opinion/quarrels in the other thread but basically I think it’s too early to write the whole thing off or even decide if it hurts the ride. The Tower of Terror has/had no AAs and it works (although the Rocket AA in Mission Breakout also works). Nor do the other two rides on that side of future world, nor do most coasters they’ve built, etc. As long as they make the decision that works best for what they’re trying to do, I personally don’t care if there’s 200 AAs or 0. Of course I have no confidence that’ll be the case.

To your last point, the ride still cost around $450 million according to Martin (I bolded for emphasis like TP does). It’s possibly the most expensive ride ever built, and that’s what it was originally budgeted for. So if anything, it’s technically budget overruns/constraints instead of cuts. But with $450 million and no AAs it does raise the question of where the money’s gone.

No I don’t believe I read your post. I haven’t wrote it off. Like I said I’m just a bit less excited hearing that. Your optimism is giving me hope that it’s still a home run.

Exactly, 450 million? Here’s to hoping there truly trying to Wow us with some stuff that we’ve never seen before.

 

[No Name]

No I don’t believe I read your post. I haven’t wrote it off. Like I said I’m just a bit less excited hearing that. Your optimism is giving me hope that it’s still a home run.

Exactly, 450 million? Here’s to hoping there truly trying to Wow us with some stuff that we’ve never seen before.

Oh okay, and you haven’t written it off, I was really referring to some unique folks on the other side of the website. For example, one person insinuated it’s just a ride and not a theme park attraction if there’s no AAs, and that’s a bit ridiculous. Basically my thought is if they’re spending almost half a billion dollars it’s gotta be one hell of an attraction.

I’m also hoping there’s some truly amazing stuff in there, but I worry they’re just bad at spending money!