Avengers Campus: E-Watch! (Waiting on the new ride)

[Disney Irish]

Lets be honest here, every ride at this point is some variation of something that came before it. There is very little "new" coming to the industry, and this is not just a "Disney" problem its industry wide. So its now all about how they use the existing ride systems and updates in technology to come up with new experiences for guests. Like taking combined systems and making a whole new exciting experience such as they did for RotR.

 

[Gusey]

Detach? This sounds like a reliability/ liability/ operations nightmare.

Yeah, but I think that's what was wrong with the original Avengers attraction. Weren't you supposed to be flying a a Quinjet, then your seats would break off on their own (attaching to a kuka arm secretly) to become jetpacks? Stark Flight Lab seems to be doing the same kind of thing but without the "Quinjet" elements (dropping it from a E-Ticket to a C-Ticket)

 

[Phroobar]

Detach? This sounds like a reliability/ liability/ operations nightmare.

 

[Nirya]

True. When was the last time we got something stateside that was truly something we had never seen? Not a 2.0 version or a plussing of something. Indiana Jones? Soarin Over California? I guess you could argue ROTR but that’s just more the combining of many different components that we have seen.

I think technically it would be Smugglers Run? Sure it is essentially an upgraded Star Tours, but the interactivity influencing the ride is pretty unique.

 

[truecoat]

Detach? This sounds like a reliability/ liability/ operations nightmare.

How so? There are many examples of ride systems that need special locks or security to operate like ROTR elevators, Hagrids drop track, or the EE track switch.

 

[mickEblu]

How so? There are many examples of ride systems that need special locks or security to operate like ROTR elevators, Hagrids drop track, or the EE track switch.

Ok maybe I I wasn’t imagining this right. The arm is going to release the pod of riders and then another will come pick up the detached pod?

 

[mickEblu]

I think technically it would be Smugglers Run? Sure it is essentially an upgraded Star Tours, but the interactivity influencing the ride is pretty unique.

Yeah its unique. But the fact that it didn’t cross my mind is pretty telling on the quality/ execution.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Ok maybe I I wasn’t imagining this right. The arm is going to release the pod of riders and then another will come pick up the detached pod?

Maybe they should have the kuka arms play catch with our ride vehicles. That would be groundbreaking. Maybe even send a research trip to a baseball game to ensure authenticity.

 

[J4546]

whats the biggest new innovative rides that have come out in the last decade in any parks??

 

[Gusey]

whats the biggest new innovative rides that have come out in the last decade in any parks??

If by last decade we're starting at 2014:

• You could say that animatronics have gotten better compared to the screen faces we saw with Seven Dwarfs and Frozen, particularly more animated faces like in Tiana's (2024), Rise of Resistance (2019) and Frozen at Hong Kong (2023).
• Rise of the Resistance is innovative in its storytelling and the multiple ride systems (transport pod pre-show, trackless ride, dropping mechanism, simulator)
• Cosmic Rewind's omnicoaster design is an improvement or just spinning coaster (2022)
• Luigi's Rollickin Roadsters bothering to use trackless technology for a flat ride instead of another dark ride could be considered innovative or just different (2016)
• Something that I think is underated is that DLP's version of PhilharMagic has moving floor, so the whole seating area tips side to side during the A Whole New World scene (2018)

 

[Misted Compass]

If by last decade we're starting at 2014:

• You could say that animatronics have gotten better compared to the screen faces we saw with Seven Dwarfs and Frozen, particularly more animated faces like in Tiana's (2024), Rise of Resistance (2019) and Frozen at Hong Kong (2023).
• Rise of the Resistance is innovative in its storytelling and the multiple ride systems (transport pod pre-show, trackless ride, dropping mechanism, simulator)
• Cosmic Rewind's omnicoaster design is an improvement or just spinning coaster (2022)
• Luigi's Rollickin Roadsters bothering to use trackless technology for a flat ride instead of another dark ride could be considered innovative or just different (2016)
• Something that I think is underated is that DLP's version of PhilharMagic has moving floor, so the whole seating area tips side to side during the A Whole New World scene (2018)

You could really argue that all of those have been done before:

• Physical faces on animatronics are of course nothing new and have been around since the 60s.
• As many have said in this thread Rise combines multiple systems that have already existed.
• Objectif Mars uses controlled spinning and opened in 2020 (though still within the last 10 years). Gringotts also uses it to an extent.
• Aquatopia.
• HISTA had a moving floor and considering DLP's Philharmagic inhabits the same theater it may even use the very same mechanism.

IMO the last ride to truly do something completely new was Forbidden Journey in 2010. I suppose Mario Kart and DK could qualify but they lose points on execution. I can also appreciate the simulator carousels on Smuggler's Run, though they aren't noticeable on the ride itself.

 

[britain]

You forgot the big one: Pirates in Shanghai - Boats that can be directed like omnimovers but still float and still can go down chutes.

 

[Phroobar]

You forgot the big one: Pirates in Shanghai - Boats that can be directed like omnimovers but still float and still can go down chutes.

I agree with that one. The Pirates boats at Shanghai is inventive, unique and really isn't anywhere else yet. Story telling coasters like Cosmic Rewind is just Knott's Sidewinder combined with Space Mountain. Mario Kart is the first to use AR in a dark ride. DK is just a themed coaster.

Let's see what Epic Universe gives us.

Now Danse Macabre at Efteling uses a Dynamic Motion Stage that spins, goes up and tilts with independent seating areas.

 

[Phroobar]

There is also this:

 

[D.Silentu]

Are you saying Tokyo’s PP ride system (ca. 2024) is better than the Disneyland / Disney World ride system for Peter Pan (ca. 1955/1971)? Or are there different rides you’re referring to?

In the sentences prior I mentioned Tiana's Bayou Adventure and DCA's Spiderman. Those are the rides I was suggesting most would consider Pan superior to.

 

[D.Silentu]

So its now all about how they use the existing ride systems and updates in technology to come up with new experiences for guests. Like taking combined systems and making a whole new exciting experience such as they did for RotR.

Absolutely, and I would like to add that I see nothing wrong with this. I get the feeling, bolstered by Trowbridge's "My favorite part..." D23 comment, that this ride has an ace up its sleeve. I don't think we're simply getting an Avengers branded version of Peter Pan. That may be the base of the attraction, but I think there's something more unique involved.

 

[britain]

Absolutely, and I would like to add that I see nothing wrong with this. I get the feeling, bolstered by Trowbridge's "My favorite part..." D23 comment, that this ride has an ace up its sleeve. I don't think we're simply getting an Avengers branded version of Peter Pan. That may be the base of the attraction, but I think there's something more unique involved.

Here's hoping. Unfortunately it could be something like "My favorite part is when Baby Groot saves the day and does his little dance."

 

[mickEblu]

Absolutely, and I would like to add that I see nothing wrong with this. I get the feeling, bolstered by Trowbridge's "My favorite part..." D23 comment, that this ride has an ace up its sleeve. I don't think we're simply getting an Avengers branded version of Peter Pan. That may be the base of the attraction, but I think there's something more unique involved.

I must of missed that. That’s slightly encouraging. Also say what you want about Trowbridge or GE missing the mark but it’s about 100x better than anything that’s opened after it domestic parks.

 

[Gusey]

I must of missed that. That’s slightly encouraging. Also say what you want about Trowbridge or GE missing the mark but it’s about 100x better than anything that’s opened after it domestic parks.

Out of curiosity, what do you think of Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway? I definitely think it's a great addition to Disneyland, all additional capacity with a great queue

 

[mickEblu]

Out of curiosity, what do you think of Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway? I definitely think it's a great addition to Disneyland, all additional capacity with a great queue

I agree with everything you said but notice how the ride experience isn’t highlighted? It’s meh.