Avatar's first sequel delayed until late 2017

[Lirael]

I felt the movie was generic at best (plotwise) and didnt like that they would dedicate such a huge chunk of AK to it...

But that said, if the Land is well done, it won't need to rely on movie success. Afterall, one of the more famous Disney rides is based on a movie Disney would really, REALLY like it if you forgot ever existed and refuses to sell merchandise of said movie. This being Splash Mountain, based on Song of the South.

So sure, the movies being a hit is necessary for making as much movie as they can squeeze out of people, but ultimately the land can still stand on its own and bring in guests without it so long as well done.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I felt the movie was generic at best (plotwise) and didnt like that they would dedicate such a huge chunk of AK to it...

But that said, if the Land is well done, it won't need to rely on movie success. Afterall, one of the more famous Disney rides is based on a movie Disney would really, REALLY like it if you forgot ever existed and refuses to sell merchandise of said movie. This being Splash Mountain, based on Song of the South.

So sure, the movies being a hit is necessary for making as much movie as they can squeeze out of people, but ultimately the land can still stand on its own and bring in guests without it so long as well done.

The movie was the highest grossing movie worldwide of all time. It, like every movie has it's flaws, but it was truly a phenomenon. The land itself has an opportunity to be visually stunning and I fully expect it to satisfy that. But for the land to be considered a success, the attractions need to be great, just like any other land. You don't have to care about the movie. If the attractions are great, the intellectual property is irrelevant.

 

[Lirael]

You don't have to care about the movie. If the attractions are great, the intellectual property is irrelevant.

That's exactly what I said in the post you quoted...

 

[Coaster Lover]

Regardless of your opinion on the movie (series?) looks like Avatar will be around for quite some time now that there are set to be FOUR sequels... (2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023)

http://screenrant.com/avatar-sequel...dium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P

They even have a "logo" for the series now...

 

[celluloid]

I know James just had an announcement to a vegas crowd about it too, but things can always change. If the next two don't perform well enough to warrant, they could cancel the others. They are likely to keep going though.
The merchandise opportunities better increase a lot though, because it lacks that appeal that other major IP's that theme parks go after.

 

[Mike S]

Regardless of your opinion on the movie (series?) looks like Avatar will be around for quite some time now that there are set to be FOUR squeals... (2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023)

http://screenrant.com/avatar-sequel...dium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P

They even have a "logo" for the series now...

All stand alone stories? I could dig that.

 

[DfromATX]

FYI...

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/cinemacon-james-cameron-announces-four-avatar-184733586.html

 

[jt04]

FYI...

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/cinemacon-james-cameron-announces-four-avatar-184733586.html

Very good. Hopefully the movies are as great as the new land.

 

[DfromATX]

I wonder which will be finished first, the new land or the movie sequel...

It's a long way's off: "He said each of the four sequels will be able to stand alone, but will together create a saga. His goal is to release Avatar 2 at Christmas 2018 and the a new film in 2020, 2021 and 2022."

I'm looking forward to it though!

 

[ford91exploder]

ye gods more ferngully with blue cat people

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe he should just focus on getting the second one done instead of coming up with additional sequels.

 

[danlb_2000]

Regardless of your opinion on the movie (series?) looks like Avatar will be around for quite some time now that there are set to be FOUR sequels... (2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023)

http://screenrant.com/avatar-sequel...dium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P

They even have a "logo" for the series now...

I am reluctant to bet against Cameron turning out good work, but I am really skeptical that this story can be stretched into 4 good sequels. I also think there is a .001% chance that all four will ever get made.

 

[FigmentJedi]

I am reluctant to bet against Cameron turning out good work, but I am really skeptical that this story can be stretched into 4 good sequels. I also think there is a .001% chance that all four will ever get made.

He plans on shooting them all at once. Also, I'm pretty sure Avatar is Fox's solution for Star Wars having gone over to Disney.

 

[danlb_2000]

He plans on shooting them all at once. Also, I'm pretty sure Avatar is Fox's solution for Star Wars having gone over to Disney.

The actual filming is a very small part of what is involved in making these movies, it wouldn't be a big loss for the studio if they didn't use all the footage that was shot.

 

[Coaster Lover]

I am reluctant to bet against Cameron turning out good work, but I am really skeptical that this story can be stretched into 4 good sequels. I also think there is a .001% chance that all four will ever get made.

Given the spacing of the last two, I'm prone to believe that the last two will really be Avatar 4 Parts 1 & 2... But yeah, I agree that's a lot of movies to commit to making so early...

 

[JohnWD]

Random thought - the films will probably cost about the same as Avatar Land....

 

[Coaster Lover]

Random thought - the films will probably cost about the same as Avatar Land....

Avatar was officially budgeted at $237 million. Other estimates put the cost between $280 million and $310 million for production and at $150 million for promotion... the estimates I'm hearing for Avatar-land are "pushing $1 billion"... I would think the sequels would cost less since much of the technology/renderings are already done, but yeah, the cost of the series as a whole just to produce (not even to market) could come close to $1 billion...

 

[DarthMileZ]

Seriously does everyone believe that these movies are going to be bad. I have never seen a bad Cameron movie IMHO and numbers don't lie. He has some of the most successful movies of all time. People are going to like the land, the movies, and the Avatar DVC tree bungalows that they will eventually build. I am looking forward to it.

My 2 cents.

Aliens was bad... even though many would disagree. Alien 3 was better and stuck towards the original

 

[EpcotCenter82]

I am reluctant to bet against Cameron turning out good work, but I am really skeptical that this story can be stretched into 4 good sequels. I also think there is a .001% chance that all four will ever get made.

The first sequel was initially scheduled for release in December 2014 so he's at least four years behind. I think there's a higher probability that my grandchildren will see the sequels, not me.

 

[danlb_2000]

Aliens was bad... even though many would disagree. Alien 3 was better and stuck towards the original

Alien and Aliens were very different movies and I think they were both excellent in their own way.