Avatar (the movie) and its Sequels

[MisterPenguin]

James Cameron Cursed Out Fox Executive Who Begged Him to Make ‘Avatar’ Shorter: ‘Get the F— Out of My Office’

James Cameron refused to make "Avatar" shorter.

variety.com

‘Avatar 2’ Is So Expensive It Must Become the ‘Fourth or Fifth Highest-Grossing Film in History’ Just to Break Even

James Cameron says that "Avatar: The Way of Water" will need to become the fourth or fifth highest-grossing movie in history in order to break even.

variety.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

Avatar 2 spoiler thread...

SPOILERS: Avatar 2: The Way of Water

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-budget-expensive-2-billion-turn-profit-1235438907/

forums.wdwmagic.com

 

[DCBaker]

"James Cameron’s long-awaited sequel Avatar: The Way of Water has landed a release date in China, Disney and 20th Century confirmed late Tuesday.

The movie will open in the Middle Kingdom on Dec. 16, the same day it hits North American theaters.

The Way of Water is one of the few Hollywood tentpoles to land a release in China since the pandemic began.

Cameron’s Avatar sequel hits the big screen more 13 than years after Avatar made history in becoming the top-grossing film of all time at the global box office, a crown it still wears today with more than $2.92 billion in ticket sales, not adjusted for inflation and including re-releases.

Avatar has been a big hit over the years in China, where it has earned a hefty total of $261.8 million to date (it has been released there several times).

The news of the China release date comes two days after the stunning news that Bob Iger will return to run the Walt Disney Co. as CEO, resulting in the ouster of Bob Chapek. Sources say Iger has been a huge proponent of the Avatar sequel, and Cameron.

Disney inherited the Avatar sequel after Iger engineered a deal to acquire much of Rupert Murdoch’s 21st Century Fox, including the movie studio 20th Century Fox.

The Way of Water‘s production budget is one of the priciest in Hollywood’s history, and is likely in the $350 million to $400 million range, according to outside sources."

Box Office: ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ Lands Coveted China Release

The news is a coup for James Cameron's long-awaited sequel.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Disney Irish]

"James Cameron’s long-awaited sequel Avatar: The Way of Water has landed a release date in China, Disney and 20th Century confirmed late Tuesday.

The movie will open in the Middle Kingdom on Dec. 16, the same day it hits North American theaters.

The Way of Water is one of the few Hollywood tentpoles to land a release in China since the pandemic began.

Cameron’s Avatar sequel hits the big screen more 13 than years after Avatar made history in becoming the top-grossing film of all time at the global box office, a crown it still wears today with more than $2.92 billion in ticket sales, not adjusted for inflation and including re-releases.

Avatar has been a big hit over the years in China, where it has earned a hefty total of $261.8 million to date (it has been released there several times).

The news of the China release date comes two days after the stunning news that Bob Iger will return to run the Walt Disney Co. as CEO, resulting in the ouster of Bob Chapek. Sources say Iger has been a huge proponent of the Avatar sequel, and Cameron.

Disney inherited the Avatar sequel after Iger engineered a deal to acquire much of Rupert Murdoch’s 21st Century Fox, including the movie studio 20th Century Fox.

The Way of Water‘s production budget is one of the priciest in Hollywood’s history, and is likely in the $350 million to $400 million range, according to outside sources."

Box Office: ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ Lands Coveted China Release

The news is a coup for James Cameron's long-awaited sequel.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Wonder if this was one of Bob's first calls after retaking the Disney throne....

 

[BrianLo]

Good, I think the ‘needs to be 3rd for 4th’ proclamation to break even is a little far fetched.

However, I do think they have very strong aspirations for this to be a 2+ billion movie. Will be very unhappy at 1.5 and it will be a disaster if it’s anywhere near or under a billion.

 

[Phroobar]

James Cameron Cursed Out Fox Executive Who Begged Him to Make ‘Avatar’ Shorter: ‘Get the F— Out of My Office’

James Cameron refused to make "Avatar" shorter.

variety.com

Cameron has always been kind of a hole. I wonder if this movie will cut him down a few pegs.

 

[FutureCEO]

ood, I think the ‘needs to be 3rd for 4th’ proclamation to break even is a little far fetched.

However, I do think they have very strong aspirations for this to be a 2+ billion movie. Will be very unhappy at 1.5 and it will be a disaster if it’s anywhere near or under a billion.

I get the feeling the movie will be a disaster. Of course, I never saw the original until it came out on TV.

 

[Screamface]

Good, I think the ‘needs to be 3rd for 4th’ proclamation to break even is a little far fetched.

However, I do think they have very strong aspirations for this to be a 2+ billion movie. Will be very unhappy at 1.5 and it will be a disaster if it’s anywhere near or under a billion.

It makes sense if you think he's talking box office in the US domestic sense. Around those numbers for a WW gross would be the break even for this kind of thing.

Or he was just talking figuratively. The 2 billion break even is click bait silliness. That would mean something like the film costing around $1 billion which is absurd.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Or he was just talking figuratively. The 2 billion break even is click bait silliness. That would mean something like the film costing 800 million which is absurd.

I wonder if he's including the cost of Avatar 2 & 3 which was supposedly made together.

 

[Ghost93]

I wonder if he's including the cost of Avatar 2 & 3 which was supposedly made together.

It's also possible he was just referring to the domestic box office and was misinterpreted.

 

[monothingie]

Current box office tracking is a predicting a smaller opening than Wakanda Forever.

 

[Phroobar]

Current box office tracking is a predicting a smaller opening than Wakanda Forever.

I think that will make sense. That would make Avatar 2 a pretty big bomb. It would be like making a new Star Wars movie twenty years later and no one showing up for it.

 

[monothingie]

@wdwmagic have you heard of any cross promotion being done in the parks?

I mean we had a Tron monorail that ran for almost a decade (I kid). I'm shocked that nothing is planned?

 

[Phroobar]

@wdwmagic have you heard of any cross promotion being done in the parks?

I mean we had a Tron monorail that ran for almost a decade (I kid). I'm shocked that nothing is planned?

The Avatar dance party at DCA!!


There is something really wrong with those tails on the dancers.

 

[DKampy]

I think that will make sense. That would make Avatar 2 a pretty big bomb. It would be like making a new Star Wars movie twenty years later and no one showing up for it.

You know what also opened with a smaller box office the Wakanda Forever…Top Gun Maverick….heck it even opened smaller than Thor Love and Thunder…this will not play like a big tent pole franchise like marvel or Star Wars

 

[sedati]

I'm getting flashbacks to all the assurances on this forum that Frozen 2 would flop and flp hard. How'd that go? And Pandora at Animal Kingdom ought to be a ghost town because it was with equally fervent fervor that we were told that would be a disaster. It's almost like some are just rooting for failure. Which is fine... I mean, this is a DC fan board right?

 

[wdwmagic]

Cast of 'Avatar: The Way of Water' returns to Pandora at Disney's Animal Kingdom​

Cast of 'Avatar: The Way of Water' returns to Pandora at Disney's Animal Kingdom

Just ahead of the December 16 2022, release of "Avatar: The Way of Water" in theaters, the cast has returned to Pandora at Disney's Animal Kingdom

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[wdwmagic]

@wdwmagic have you heard of any cross promotion being done in the parks?

I mean we had a Tron monorail that ran for almost a decade (I kid). I'm shocked that nothing is planned?

Nope nothing at all yet.

 

[Phroobar]

I'm getting flashbacks to all the assurances on this forum that Frozen 2 would flop and flp hard. How'd that go? And Pandora at Animal Kingdom ought to be a ghost town because it was with equally fervent fervor that we were told that would be a disaster. It's almost like some are just rooting for failure. Which is fine... I mean, this is a DC fan board right?

People in Florida will ride anything. What else are you going to do at Animal Kingdom? Walk the tiger trail or see the broken Yeti?

 

[monothingie]

Nope nothing at all yet.

Good money after bad at this point I guess….