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BryceM

BryceM

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RSoxNo1 said:
That's an interesting perspective. Potter is clearly their most impactful play. Anything they had done previously was met with a collective, "meh" from theme park fans. Disney was ready to respond to IOA. It had the decent attraction lineup (3 coasters, Spiderman, Popeye and Blutos) but it didn't hurt Disney at all. The follow up to Potter is smaller additions to existing park lands, or Lord of the Rings.
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I don't think when Islands of Adventure opened it was met with a "meh". Ever since it has opening, it's been referred to as one of the best theme parks in the world. It had a huge impact on theme park fans, just not the general public. Probably due to the poor marketing as "Universal Studios Escape", and that's why it didn't really impact Disney. Glad that was changed.
 
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MattM

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marni1971 said:
Orlando is the corporate cash cow. The other resorts are run as resorts.

Hence NextGen and DVC overkill as opposed to innovative new E ticket attractions.
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Oh, I agree Orlando is the cash cow of theme parks in the greater parks & resorts division. But like I think he's talking Disney as in TWDC not WDW.
 
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MattM

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SirLink said:
I didn't say even bring up CEOs, but if you are going to I can think of maybe 5 within the last two years told shareholders extremely false information to steady stock prices. Mostly IEB companies though, but TWDC has as well.

Lutz does have pretty reliable sources - confirmed by others that I trust on internal affairs of Disney, way more than a man sitting in a cubicle giving out false hope. I'm more of an IEB man myself ...
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Go check post #812. Otherwise, good talk.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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BryceM said:
I don't think when Islands of Adventure opened it was met with a "meh". Ever since it has opening, it's been referred to as one of the best theme parks in the world. It had a huge impact on theme park fans, just not the general public. Probably due to the poor marketing as "Universal Studios Escape", and that's why it didn't really impact Disney. Glad that was changed.
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It didn't take attendance away from Disney because of the Marketing plan you mentioned. What's ironic is that the marketing for Potter was intentionally vague but the internet had evolved to the point where information was readily available.
 
nytimez

nytimez

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RSoxNo1 said:
It's a Fantasyland dark ride that attempts to retell an 82 minute movie in 6 minutes. Splash Mountain has several storytelling gaps as well, does that mean there's something wrong with it?
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This is a silly straw-man response. Of course there will be gaps, no one would expect otherwise. However, they need to tell a coherent story in the time they do have. They did it with Splash, with Pan, with Snow White and (in DL) Alice in Wonderland, etc.

In this case, they failed. So yes, there is something wrong with it.

And beyond the storytelling issues, the constant show problems are unacceptable.
 
Sped2424

Sped2424

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I am not really a thoughtful person. I am strictly an in one ear out the fingers fingers kinda guy.

Bt seriously, all I have heard about the big E.] is from one guy who says it is going to be"cooler' than the one in the leaked blueprints.
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welp thats all I need to hear.
 
PeterAlt

PeterAlt

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I can't post much now, I'm at Universal.

Concerning the C, my theory is the funds were transferred from a ride system to plussing the content. I suspect the fiber optic bioluminescent tech is more pricey than expected. But that is my theory and the fact I believe Cameron would go along with that.

And I think that a walk thru is very consistent with DAKs principles. That is not to say that DAK doesn't need more rides. Just that a walk-thru showcasing Pandora's animals (AA obviously) would actually be very DAK.
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Why does everything always have to be AAs? Wouldn't it be both cheaper to build and maintain if hologram figures were used instead?
 
PeterAlt

PeterAlt

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nytimez said:
This is a silly straw-man response. Of course there will be gaps, no one would expect otherwise. However, they need to tell a coherent story in the time they do have. They did it with Splash, with Pan, with Snow White and (in DL) Alice in Wonderland, etc.

In this case, they failed. So yes, there is something wrong with it.

And beyond the storytelling issues, the constant show problems are unacceptable.
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Question: Is this the same ride that's at TDS? If so, they knew it was flawed going into DCA and they had even more time to figure that out going into FLE!
 
PeterAlt

PeterAlt

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marni1971 said:
You know holograms that could even hope to replicate an AA are still pipe dreams?

But I'm sure the bean counters agree with your hope.
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What would it be worth to them if I told them how to do it?

I know I like to joke around a lot, but I'm dead serious about this.
 
marni1971

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
PeterAlt said:
What would it be worth to them if I told them how to do it?

I know I like to joke around a lot, but I'm dead serious about this.
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Oh they have tried. I'm sure they know what you do. And more. Thats their job. The results were quite good but still far too limited to be attraction based instead of an AA.
 

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