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NoChesterHester

NoChesterHester

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I have heard the D-ticket boat ride has been downgraded to a C-ticket walk thru. It is basically the same attraction without a ride system. It should have several large AAs and "bioluminescent" plants. But as Lee said. It will be the first thing axed if the budget balloons.
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This, along with the moving walkway info, fits with some real early rumors of a Pandorian Zoo being one of the featured attractions. Boat would be better, but I do enjoy walk through attractions.
 
jt04

jt04

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NoChesterHester said:
This, along with the moving walkway info, fits with some real early rumors of a Pandorian Zoo being one of the featured attractions. Boat would be better, but I do enjoy walk through attractions.
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I could see then doing a walkthrough to mirror the trails found elsewhere in the park. Would be great if they can make it seem as real as those yet other-worldly.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Tim_4 said:
$2 billion each for DAK and DHS? Furrealz? DCA was just "fixed" for half that and it was in far worse shape than any WDW park.
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DCA's issues were theming - it had a solid attraction lineup. It could be argued that DHS is in worse shape than DCA was, the difference being that parts of DHS (Hollywood and Sunset Blvd) actually work. Animal Kingdom works thematically but it needs new attractions.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Tim_4 said:
I've said this before but I'll say it again. Potter isn't fast because Universal is good, Potter is fast because Universal is desperate. It's their ONLY play. Their creative process is easy because they have a grand total of one option. What to build? Potter. Done. It's also much easier to build the streets of London than the forrests of Pandora. Universal needs to expand to create demand. Disney HAS demand so their expansions are about accommodating the masses, not a panicked attempt to draw them in. Will NGE bring new guests to WDW? Probably not. But it should enhance the experience for the existing guests. Disney can afford to take their sweet time. Universal cannot.
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That's an interesting perspective. Potter is clearly their most impactful play. Anything they had done previously was met with a collective, "meh" from theme park fans. Disney was ready to respond to IOA. It had the decent attraction lineup (3 coasters, Spiderman, Popeye and Blutos) but it didn't hurt Disney at all. The follow up to Potter is smaller additions to existing park lands, or Lord of the Rings.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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GLaDOS said:
No one comes for Transformers? So the higher attendance and guest spending USH has seen since it opened came from what, closing T2?

Please.
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I think the point is that there are redundancies with the Transformers Ride. It will move the needle at Universal, but I suspect it's impact will be comparable to the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. The really impactful additions are the wholly immersive lands anchored by an E-Ticket.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I have heard the D-ticket boat ride has been downgraded to a C-ticket walk thru. It is basically the same attraction without a ride system. It should have several large AAs and "bioluminescent" plants. But as Lee said. It will be the first thing axed if the budget balloons.
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The boat ride was described on blueprints as a C-ticket.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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doctornick said:
DAK is my favorite park at WDW. It's just an awesome place to just wander and look at the atmosphere. I thnk it's a fun park for kids, adults, anyone.

That said, it needs rides. It just needs more. You can't be a theme park and depend on walk throughs, ambiance and a smattering of rides and shows. I'm not even saying it needs 20 more rides, right now. But it does need 4-6 more, particularly non-height restricted/family rides particularly if they want to make it a "full day park" and keep it open late. Rides really are the backbone of any theme park.
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Yep, this is why fixing DAK is a lot easier than fixing DHS. Fundamentally, the park is just under built. Aside from Dinorama the park is beautiful, and even Dinorama as a concept could work if Primeval Whirl was replaced with a funhouse style dark ride (or better yet, LPS) geared towards Dinosaurs/Extinct animals
 
ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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RSoxNo1 said:
From an attraction standpoint, at this point there's no way to make that judgement. You know what Transformers is, while we really don't have any idea what Avatar is. If it's the creation of a franchise, that's a more solid argument
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Avatarland is a wildcard. People love to bash it but it could be spectacular if it's not value engineered and turned into a place for meet-and-greets & restaurants.

It's sad to see Universal run circles around WDW when it comes to timelines. I don't buy into the "Cameron is so difficult to work with" argument. Rowling is not exactly the easiest person to work with either. If Disney had the same confidence in Cameron as Universal had in Rowling, earnest site work would have started by now.
 
nytimez

nytimez

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RSoxNo1 said:
There is nothing wrong with the Little Mermaid ride. It's a mid-range quality attraction that is a positive addition to Fantasyland. It was never intended to be an E-ticket driver of attendance. Not every addition to the parks needs to revolutionize the theme park industry.
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There is plenty wrong with Little Mermaid ride, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it's not revolutionary or not intended to be an E-ticket. It's got everything from storytelling problems to show problems.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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nytimez said:
There is plenty wrong with Little Mermaid ride, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it's not revolutionary or not intended to be an E-ticket. It's got everything from storytelling problems to show problems.
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It's a Fantasyland dark ride that attempts to retell an 82 minute movie in 6 minutes. Splash Mountain has several storytelling gaps as well, does that mean there's something wrong with it?
 
ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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nytimez said:
There is plenty wrong with Little Mermaid ride, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it's not revolutionary or not intended to be an E-ticket. It's got everything from storytelling problems to show problems.
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IMHO Little Mermaid is a big disappointment for the reason you mention. Without SDMT, the entire New Fantasyland feels like nothing more than an area for future upsales once MyMagic+ is fully implemented.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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I can't post much now, I'm at Universal.

Concerning the C, my theory is the funds were transferred from a ride system to plussing the content. I suspect the fiber optic bioluminescent tech is more pricey than expected. But that is my theory and the fact I believe Cameron would go along with that.

And I think that a walk thru is very consistent with DAKs principles. That is not to say that DAK doesn't need more rides. Just that a walk-thru showcasing Pandora's animals (AA obviously) would actually be very DAK.
 
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twebber55

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I can't post much now, I'm at Universal.

Concerning the C, my theory is the funds were transferred from a ride system to plussing the content. I suspect the fiber optic bioluminescent tech is more pricey than expected. But that is my theory and the fact I believe Cameron would go along with that.

And I think that a walk thru is very consistent with DAKs principles. That is not to say that DAK doesn't need more rides. Just that a walk-thru showcasing Pandora's animals (AA obviously) would actually be very DAK.
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would love to hear your thoughts about the E..is it more soarin or more like Pandoras box
 

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