AVATAR land - the specifics

danlb_2000

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Brian Swan

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Afraid since most of my trips are with adults or by myself. I have never been to that attraction.
I might be temped to check in just to see the whole mirror thing and the Lumiere AA.
I'm in the same boat, but I did do it once (just so I could keep my record of having been in/on every attraction in WDW since it opened). I have little love for cute kiddie shows, but the above-mentioned AAs and effects, coupled with over-all excellent theming, made it worth the 20 min or so to experience it.
 

Clowd Nyne

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I'm sorry I've been off the forums for a a few months and just want to know if there is a table service restaurant planned for the land.
 

Siren

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Why are the dining options in Avatarland still unknown? We know more about dining in Star Wars land. Hopefully, some more info on dining and Avatarland will be provided during D23.

As an aside, I just can't wait to try Tiffins.
 

twebber55

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Why are the dining options in Avatarland still unknown? We know more about dining in Star Wars land. Hopefully, some more info on dining and Avatarland will be provided during D23.

As an aside, I just can't wait to try Tiffins.
great question
hopefully on the 20th we will have a better understanding of whats in store for the land
i mean at some point you have to go into advertising mode
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Why are the dining options in Avatarland still unknown?
As an aside, I just can't wait to try Tiffins.

They're still trying to come up with a glow-in-the-dark menu. The radioactive choices turned out to be a bit bland.

And Tiffins is excellent.
 

Siren

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great question
hopefully on the 20th we will have a better understanding of whats in store for the land
i mean at some point you have to go into advertising mode
Hi @twebber55! I totally agree. Disney has to give us plenty of time to plan and stuff. This is a big deal. LOL.

They're still trying to come up with a glow-in-the-dark menu. The radioactive choices turned out to be a bit bland.

And Tiffins is excellent.
Hi @MisterPenguin! I just might like something like that. LOL. Avatarland is the perfect place for a really unique and amazing dining experience.

And, thanks for chiming in on Tiffins. I can't wait to try it.

Anyway, I just skimmed the itinerary for D23 and these are the events that look interesting to me. Honestly, all of events look very interesting but I think these are the ones that may offer info about new stuff at WDW.

The main one for Avatarland is on Sunday, November 20 at 11:05 PM. Can't wait!!!

D23 Destination D: Amazing Adventures Event Program

Saturday, November 19

9 a.mWelcome!

9:10 a.m. A Conversation with Bob Chapek. Bob Chapek,
Chairman, Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, will sit down with D23’s Jeffrey Epstein to share his insights on the parks.

2 p.m. — A Special Announcement from Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment

2:05 p.m. — Disney Adventurelands Around the World
Set off on a journey through exotic realms at Disney theme parks around the globe, as Imagineers Tony Baxter, Jason Grandt, and Luc Mayrand explore “Adventurelands” from Florida to Shanghai.


Sunday, November 20

9:20 a.m. — New Walt Disney World Adventures Get an insider’s glimpse into the latest experiences across Walt Disney World Resort with behind-the-scenes looks at new and upcoming entertainment!

*****11:05 a.m. — Pandora – The World of AVATAR*****
AVATAR creators James Cameron (writer, director, producer) and Jon Landau (producer) and Imagineer Joe Rohde unveil new details about the immersive, 12-acre land coming soon to Disney’s Animal Kingdom.

4:55 p.m. — Disney’s Animal Kingdom: Evolving a New Species of Theme Park Imagineer Joe Rohde shares the origins and incredible evolution of Disney’s Animal Kingdom, from early concepts to new experiences to be discovered at the park!

8 p.m. — In-Park Gathering (Optional)
-Walt Disney World Resort theme park admission required.- (struck through in original)
Walt Disney World Resort theme park admission NOT required.
Details forthcoming.
 

Atomicmickey

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Just a bit of a side track . . . .

I just yesterday rode the "Fly Over America" attraction at the Mall of America.
It uses the Vekoma system, the one, I think, that is pictured here from time to time.
The load system was suspiciously like what we have seen in the blueprints, three sets of stairs
to three separate levels. When you sit, the room goes black and you are gently pushed forward
into the domed area, the film starts in the clouds with a fade up and you are off.

I thought it was, um, well, OK. More motion than Soarin', but not a ton. A bit of water spritz
and scent here and there. A "nice" experience.

The imagery, while digital, was blurry, and not what we are now used to seeing on 4K TV's, didn't
have that 'looking out a window' feel to it. That was my biggest disappointment. Blurriness.

In sum, I liked it, I would ride again, but my "imaginary bar" is so much higher for the immersion
and feel of Flight of Passage.

@1023 you are my hope to divulge a little of the system, image quality, etc. of Flight of Passage.

I assume it will be 3D with glasses, but the resolution needs to be insane . . . hoping for something
groundbreaking.

The Gringott's ride could have also used brighter projection and crisper resolution, for comparison,
since a lot of you would not have done the MOA ride.

Also . . . High Frame Rate. Please High Frame Rate . . . .

We shall see, we shall see . . .
 

180º

Well-Known Member
Just a bit of a side track . . . .

I just yesterday rode the "Fly Over America" attraction at the Mall of America.
It uses the Vekoma system, the one, I think, that is pictured here from time to time.
The load system was suspiciously like what we have seen in the blueprints, three sets of stairs
to three separate levels. When you sit, the room goes black and you are gently pushed forward
into the domed area, the film starts in the clouds with a fade up and you are off.

I thought it was, um, well, OK. More motion than Soarin', but not a ton. A bit of water spritz
and scent here and there. A "nice" experience.

The imagery, while digital, was blurry, and not what we are now used to seeing on 4K TV's, didn't
have that 'looking out a window' feel to it. That was my biggest disappointment. Blurriness.

In sum, I liked it, I would ride again, but my "imaginary bar" is so much higher for the immersion
and feel of Flight of Passage.

@1023 you are my hope to divulge a little of the system, image quality, etc. of Flight of Passage.

I assume it will be 3D with glasses, but the resolution needs to be insane . . . hoping for something
groundbreaking.

The Gringott's ride could have also used brighter projection and crisper resolution, for comparison,
since a lot of you would not have done the MOA ride.

Also . . . High Frame Rate. Please High Frame Rate . . . .

We shall see, we shall see . . .
Nice report. Totally agree on the high frame rate, and I'd go further to say it's time to stop rendering motion blur for simulator attractions. It's a wonderful, filmic effect for movies, but on Star Tours, for instance, it is distracting/disorienting.
 

Atomicmickey

Well-Known Member
Nice report. Totally agree on the high frame rate, and I'd go further to say it's time to stop rendering motion blur for simulator attractions. It's a wonderful, filmic effect for movies, but on Star Tours, for instance, it is distracting/disorienting.

Good point on the motion blur . . . but you really need HFR to make it work. Otherwise you get unnatural frame judder.
I am also driven insane on my 4K TV by compression artifacts.

Here's hoping there's a NASA supercomputer blasting uncompressed 8K or 16K IMAX style frames, with a billion lumen projection system,
at 120FPS . . . . in 3D . . .

I do believe at some point image capture will be so stunning, that when combined with 3D and/or Virtual Reality, that you'll
really have a sensation of being fooled that "wow, I'm here." Then it's just a couple steps to The Matrix, lol . . .
 

Incomudro

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On the subject of outdoor AA's in Pandora, and similarities to Jungle Cruise.
Pandora AA's are being designed and built decades later, so even given an outdoor application - I would expect some advances.
Also...
I'm imagining them to be more hidden. Something that you spot as you would on say Animal Kingdoms nature trails.
Perhaps, some will be hidden and reveal themselves from behind foliage and such.
 

Coaster Lover

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I'm sure this has been asked so I apologize upfront for any duplication, but does anyone know if the same ride systems will be used in Flight of passage and The Iron Man Experience... Also, any similarities in these two attractions?

Completely different. The Iron Man Experience in Hong Kong will be more or less the same system used for Star Tours (with plenty of upgrades I'm sure). Flight of Passage would be different than anything else at any Disney park, but would be most similar to Soarin'.
 

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