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[Master Yoda]

i dont have a clue about this..what do pilings do for the construction

Pilings are driven into the ground to act as or reinforce a foundation. They are often step one in physical construction.

 

[dstrawn9889]

i cannot think of any other reason other than they are driving pilings, or assembling the crane itself for use in moving large chunks of FoTLK (hvac or structural steel when they start demo

 

[danlb_2000]

I would be interested in see a picture of the crane people are seeing. The type of crane might help us determine what it is being used for.

 

[dstrawn9889]

myself as well, that way we can determine capacity...

 

[Steel City Magic]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/attachments/image-jpg.46581/
hows that?

 

[danlb_2000]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/attachments/image-jpg.46581/
hows that?

Thanks for the picture! Unfortunately the quality isn't good enough for me to determine anything. Maybe someone else will have some thoughts.

 

[roj2323]

i cannot think of any other reason other than they are driving pilings, or assembling the crane itself for use in moving large chunks of FoTLK (hvac or structural steel when they start demo

If the rumors are true about the flight simulator in avatarland then the structure is going to need a fairly significant foundation. Additionally the floating rocks are going to need a significant foundation as well so it makes sense that they would start with that. As for disassembling the old FoTLK building that can be done largely with ground equipment and a small mobile crane. At the very least they could just be installing a foundation for a tower crane but I doubt it.

 

[Bolt]

Pilings are driven into the ground to act as or reinforce a foundation. They are often step one in physical construction.

Exactly this.

 

[Tom]

If the rumors are true about the flight simulator in avatarland then the structure is going to need a fairly significant foundation. Additionally the floating rocks are going to need a significant foundation as well so it makes sense that they would start with that. As for disassembling the old FoTLK building that can be done largely with ground equipment and a small mobile crane. At the very least they could just be installing a foundation for a tower crane but I doubt it.

According to the original plans, there are MANY pilings and foundations in the primary attraction building. It's a mammoth steel building, plus the weight of the ride system.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

One other thing I thought about, is if they need to dig down into the sand, they may be pile driving corrugated steel sheets into the sand to build a perimeter wall. After they do that, they can dig out all the sand inside the area. That is what Universal did for Transformers.

 

[dstrawn9889]

One other thing I thought about, is if they need to dig down into the sand, they may be pile driving corrugated steel sheets into the sand to build a perimeter wall. After they do that, they can dig out all the sand inside the area. That is what Universal did for Transformers.

sheet piling...

 

[Disneyhead'71]

sheet piling...

Yeah, that.

 

[Master Yoda]

One other thing I thought about, is if they need to dig down into the sand, they may be pile driving corrugated steel sheets into the sand to build a perimeter wall. After they do that, they can dig out all the sand inside the area. That is what Universal did for Transformers.

sheet piling...

Isn't sheet piling typically done only when the size constraints of the job site will not permit the soil being excavated out to the proper relief angle?

 

[dstrawn9889]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/attachments/image-jpg.46581/
hows that?

that looks to me like the same type off crane in the pilings demo video... but quality is poor... it is definately not a static crane, nor is ti cantalevered, so a lighter-duty tracked crane (also the type that must be assembled onsite, since boom is all tubesteel, not a telescopic)

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Isn't sheet piling typically done only when the size constraints of the job site will not permit the soil being excavated out to the proper relief angle?

IDK, I just know that sheet piling is one thing that they use Pile Drivers for here in the sandy state of Florida.

 

[dstrawn9889]

they can use it as a breakwall as they keep excavating, to keep the sandy soil from back-filling the dug out area, as well as key wall around the sassagula... (not disney, stock footage)

 

[twebber55]

you guys are talking way over my head on this stuff

 

[dstrawn9889]

Isn't sheet piling typically done only when the size constraints of the job site will not permit the soil being excavated out to the proper relief angle?

yup-- and also tohold back water/soil from intrusion into the other.

 

[Master Yoda]

you guys are talking way over my head on this stuff

Here is the explanation for my comment "sheet piling used when soil can not be dug out to proper relief angle".

The relief angle for soil is the maxim angle that a hole can be dug without the sides collapsing in. For something like the red clay in Georgia you can darn near get away with having a straight 90 degree wall. However, when you are dealing with the sandy soils of Florida, that angle has to be much less. If you don't have the room to dig out the hole to meet this angle you have to put up some sort of a barrier to prevent the soil from collapsing in. For large sites, sheet pilings are ideal as you just keep adding more and more sections. For smaller projects, one piece construction units commonly called "trench boxes" are used.

 

[Texas84]

I really should have gone civil engineering instead of chemical. This stuff is more fun.