AVATAR breaks ground

FigmentJedi

FigmentJedi

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I wonder how malleable Avatarland would be in the face of people not really caring about Smurfycats? You probably could reverse engineer a fantasy setting out of the Roger Dean Ripoff Landscape, get rid of all the sci-fi elements, and there you go.
 
SirLink

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sshindel said:
This is an honest question, because I don't follow Disneyland news, and didn't follow it online for sure at the time. How did people react to Carsland? It was the least popular Pixar franchise, kids opinions aside.
Were people questioning that decision? I honestly don't know the answer to that.
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I remember some of them: "Urgh! Not more Pixar in the parks"
 
jt04

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I remember the same doom and gloom when Disney bought Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and every other major new happening of recent history. :rolleyes:

And the same said this will never get out of development. Hah. :p

And why is the competition panicking? :eek:

Why is the spirit in hiding?

~Frozen~ :coldfeet: :greedy:
 
danlb_2000

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hakunamatata said:
Have not made it through all the posts so this may have been addressed, but could it be that Disney is going to use the current grade and drainage and not need to do a whole lot of site prep?
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If Avatar is going to be the same size as CMM I guess it's possible, but I think it's likely that this will expand into areas behind CMM and towards Rainforest. All that land is currently unpaved, so if they put buildings, concrete or other non-permeable surfaces on it they would have to present a plan for how storm water will be managed. Maybe @Tom could provide some more input on this.
 
tirian

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jt04 said:
I remember the same doom and gloom when Disney bought Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and every other major new happening of recent history. :rolleyes:

And the same said this will never get out of development. Hah. :p

And why is the competition panicking? :eek:

Why is the spirit in hiding?

~Frozen~ :coldfeet: :greedy:
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The land will be a stunning addition to DAK; there's no doubt about that! I think most fans, including me, are disappointed because the IP isn't as popular or as culturally significant as Potter. Incidentally, Disney will never sell Potter levels of merchandise, either.

Don't get too snarky, though. James Cameron's 2012 tour of DAK was notable because he left extremely unimpressed with the way Disney has watered down its parks. When a certain Spirit, Miceage, and others (including me) reported that Avatar had stagnated, it had.

It was Disney's own fault, too. It's the reason JK Rowling turned down WDI and the reason Cameron almost did—the Company wanted to slash budgets. Cameron was only willing to sign off on DAK if Avatar met his personal standards. Obviously, as FLE and Carsland have proven, Disney is willing to return to a high level of quality* atmosphere. We can thank a certain wizard for offering a much-needed kick in the pants.

Am I looking forward to this land? As Sarah Palin says, "You betcha." I hate the movie and couldn't care less about giant blue cat-people, but this land will be incredible.

*although that hasn't helped special events, rides, and maintenance yet.

EDIT: And please, nobody should trot out that Internet myth that Rowling was too difficult to work with. If that were true, how did Uni please her despite outsourcing almost everything to third parties? That doesn't include the obvious cost-cutting measures at Dragon Challenge and Flight of the Hippograff.
 
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Hakunamatata

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tirian said:
We can thank a certain wizard for offering a much-needed kick in the pants.
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This guy?

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danlb_2000

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tirian said:
The land will be a stunning addition to DAK; there's no doubt about that! I think most fans, including me, are disappointed because the IP isn't as popular or as culturally significant as Potter. Incidentally, Disney will never sell Potter levels of merchandise, either.

Don't get too snarky, though. James Cameron's 2012 tour of DAK was notable because he left extremely unimpressed with the way Disney has watered down its parks. When a certain Spirit, Miceage, and others (including me) reported that Avatar had stagnated, it had.

It was Disney's own fault, too. It's the reason JK Rowling turned down WDI and the reason Cameron almost did—the Company wanted to slash budgets. Cameron was only willing to sign off on DAK if Avatar met his personal standards. Obviously, as FLE and Carsland have proven, Disney is willing to return to a high level of quality* atmosphere. We can thank a certain wizard for offering a much-needed kick in the pants.

Am I looking forward to this land? As Sarah Palin says, "You betcha." I hate the movie and couldn't care less about giant blue cat-people, but this land will be incredible.

*although that hasn't helped special events, rides, and maintenance yet.
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Remember you are talking to the person who believes that the idea that Cameron is hard to work with is all just an internet myth.
 
Soarin' Over Pgh

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PhishinDisney said:
So Star Wars land?
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Yeah, no.

hakunamatata said:
Have not made it through all the posts so this may have been addressed, but could it be that Disney is going to use the current grade and drainage and not need to do a whole lot of site prep?
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Judging by the concept art the set pieces and buildings are quite large, I'd imagine there's a great deal of groundwork prep before this thing goes vertical.... that'll be at least a year from now. Not to mention the destruction of CMM first, obviously.
 

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