Attendance sinking on the West Coast too?

[Model3 McQueen]

Personally, I think MMRR never was an E-ticket. I think it’s a one-and-done mediocre ride that substitutes projected cartoons for anything exciting or involving. Maybe others feel the same.

I like MMRR a lot, for at least the way they captured some of the magic from the Mickey Mouse shorts. It’s lacking in multiple areas however (should’ve been way more effects and less projections) and could’ve been light years better. Such is the way of modern Disney. At least it wasn’t marvel or Star Wars or Pixar.

 

[choco choco]

Personally, I think MMRR never was an E-ticket. I think it’s a one-and-done mediocre ride that substitutes projected cartoons for anything exciting or involving. Maybe others feel the same.

It’s a pretty good projection effort with at least some effort in depth by projecting onto some 3-dimensional sets.

And at least you can look around.


The new Peter Pan ride in Tokyo is really dire. It’s moving from flat screen to flat screen and the ride vehicle forces you to only look ahead. It’s worse than even Ratatouille in that regard. I really dislike that scoop-style ride system.

 

[chadwpalm]

The new Peter Pan ride in Tokyo is really dire. It’s moving from flat screen to flat screen and the ride vehicle forces you to only look ahead. It’s worse than even Ratatouille in that regard. I really dislike that scoop-style ride system.

Oh good....I'm not the only one. The Tokyo Peter Pan looks abysmal to me. If they used that ride system for Avengers (or really anything else here at DLR) I'd maybe ride it once to check it out, but it would definitely be a one and done for me if they did.

If I wanted to sit and watch a 3D animated film on a screen I'd just go to my local cinema. With D-BOX technology they can even make the seats move now.

 

[Phroobar]

Oh good....I'm not the only one. The Tokyo Peter Pan looks abysmal to me. If they used that ride system for Avengers (or really anything else here at DLR) I'd maybe ride it once to check it out, but it would definitely be a one and done for me if they did.

If I wanted to sit and watch a 3D animated film on a screen I'd just go to my local cinema. With D-BOX technology they can even make the seats move now.

The new Tokyo Peter Pan ride looks likes something found at a Dubai theme park.

 

[mickEblu]

The new Tokyo Peter Pan ride looks likes something found at a Dubai theme park.

All I know is the burgers at Tony’s Liquor had no business being that good. Also, hopefully they abort that ride system in favor of a coaster.

 

[Rich T]

…I really dislike that scoop-style ride system.

I love its use on IoA’s SpiderMan, as that ride is so fast-paced, fun and genuinely startling.

I’m sure the new Tokyo Peter Pan ride looks better in person, but… yeah, I’m in no hurry to ride it.

If they had done a longer, wilder, higher-altitude version of the original dark ride in an enormous show building, I’d be booking a trip to Tokyo immediately.

But a screen-based, undramatic tour of Neverland that puts way too much emphasis on the Lost Boys, who rank among my least-favorite Disney characters ever? No thank you.

I’m not crazy about ANY of the FS rides. I really don’t enjoy this new trend to just recreate movie scenes. Y’know, I’ll at least give the Pan ride credit for mixing the story elements around a bit.

 

[Dayoldbread16]

Nothing is official yet, but when I last talked to my sister about summer plans, the idea of us all going up to Disneyland for a day or two was not at the top of the list.

Her boys and their wives have no interest or desire to go any more. And without that component it's harder to get the three of us old duffers, especially her husband who is always a good sport but not exactly a Disneyland fanatic, motivated to deal with all the hassle and headache that a Disneyland visit requires now; reservations, planning, mandatory App downloads and updates, Lightning Lane upcharges and rules and regulations, Mobile Order requirements if you dare to want so much as a corndog or a Coke, Check The App! You're Not Looking At The App Enough! You Don't Seem Like You Want This Enough! etc., etc.

Without some big new ride or "thing", the thrill seems to be draining away for my family.

Same I’m still waiting for them to start construction on and announce more info on that avengers e ticket ride for dca

 

[Dayoldbread16]

I love its use on IoA’s SpiderMan, as that ride is so fast-paced, fun and genuinely startling.

I’m sure the new Tokyo Peter Pan ride looks better in person, but… yeah, I’m in no hurry to ride it.

If they had done a longer, wilder, higher-altitude version of the original dark ride in an enormous show building, I’d be booking a trip to Tokyo immediately.

But a screen-based, undramatic tour of Neverland that puts way too much emphasis on the Lost Boys, who rank among my least-favorite Disney characters ever? No thank you.

I’m not crazy about ANY of the FS rides. I really don’t enjoy this new trend to just recreate movie scenes. Y’know, I’ll at least give the Pan ride credit for mixing the story elements around a bit.

To be fair they could definitely dial up the intensity of the ride vehicle spend and movements to be like Indiana jones. In addition to adding animatronics and more physical sets. Of course I had faith in old Disney to do stuff like that. But when it comes to modern Disney I lost most of my faith in them in terms of making a good ride.

on twitter Disney officially announced that the ride would be using animatronics and physical sets so that is a good sign. Of course only time will tell. One things for sure, after they announce more info on it at this years d23, they need to break ground on it immediately. Because it’s ridiculous that it’s been years yet they never bothered to start construction on it.

In my opinion I think the ride will be just “ok”. Like not good but not bad. That cancelled quinjet iteration of the e ticket would have been amazing though

 

[captveg]

For my family Lightning Lane upcharges were the last straw. They see it as anti-Walt and therefore a bridge too far.

 

[DLR92]

Personally I think people are just choosing more options now that prices are IMO ridiculous.
Disneyland is still a highly coveted place. I think people are burnt out with how much planning there is to with the app, too much price gouging.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I love its use on IoA’s SpiderMan, as that ride is so fast-paced, fun and genuinely startling.

Yes, and spider man has an incredible mix of physical special effects as well.

Indiana Jones and Spider-Man are probably the best we are ever going to get. Both come from the same era.

 

[Dayoldbread16]

Yes, and spider man has an incredible mix of physical special effects as well.

Indiana Jones and Spider-Man are probably the best we are ever going to get. Both come from the same era.

It’s kinda sad that universal made a way better spider man ride back in the 90s compared to Disneys awful modern spider man ride. Although then again universal actually put effort and money into their spider man ride. While Disney did theirs lazy and on the cheap (outsourced the rides development to another company).

It’s disappointing that Disney cancelled the original e ticket quinjet ride that was ambitious and high budget. The seemingly lower budget and less ambitious multiverse ride has a good chance of going either two ways:

1. It turns out to be “ok” at best, which is the best outcome considering Disneys recent questionable track record.

Or 2. It turns out to be terrible, either due to being poorly put together (like bad story or the ride is 90% screens) or being budget cut.

Of course this all depends on if Disney even bothers to start construction on it before we all turn 80

 

[Disney Irish]

It’s kinda sad that universal made a way better spider man ride back in the 90s compared to Disneys awful modern spider man ride. Although then again universal actually put effort and money into their spider man ride. While Disney did theirs lazy and on the cheap (outsourced the rides development to another company).

It’s disappointing that Disney cancelled the original e ticket quinjet ride that was ambitious and high budget. The seemingly lower budget and less ambitious multiverse ride has a good chance of going either two ways:

1. It turns out to be “ok” at best, which is the best outcome considering Disneys recent questionable track record.

Or 2. It turns out to be terrible, either due to being poorly put together (like bad story or the ride is 90% screens) or being budget cut.

Of course this all depends on if Disney even bothers to start construction on it before we all turn 80

I'm sorry, but awful? That is a bit hyperbolic if you ask me. Is it the best attraction out there, no. But it works for what they wanted, and many happen to enjoy it, including myself. People have to accept that Disney isn't just going to build an E-Ticket for every single attraction build. There is still a need for solid C and D level attractions in all Disney Parks, which Webslingers certainly fits that bill.

 

[Phroobar]

It’s kinda sad that universal made a way better spider man ride back in the 90s compared to Disneys awful modern spider man ride. Although then again universal actually put effort and money into their spider man ride. While Disney did theirs lazy and on the cheap (outsourced the rides development to another company).

It’s disappointing that Disney cancelled the original e ticket quinjet ride that was ambitious and high budget. The seemingly lower budget and less ambitious multiverse ride has a good chance of going either two ways:

1. It turns out to be “ok” at best, which is the best outcome considering Disneys recent questionable track record.

Or 2. It turns out to be terrible, either due to being poorly put together (like bad story or the ride is 90% screens) or being budget cut.

Of course this all depends on if Disney even bothers to start construction on it before we all turn 80

Oh it will definitely be 90% screens. Just take the Disney Springs Peter Pan ride and cut the budget. The Quinjet ride being suspended from jet packs was far more ambitious. I think the Avengers ride will be mostly to shut us up about have the ride but we will just complain about the quality.

 

[Rich T]

I'm sorry, but awful? That is a bit hyperbolic if you ask me. Is it the best attraction out there, no. But it works for what they wanted, and many happen to enjoy it, including myself. People have to accept that Disney isn't just going to build an E-Ticket for every single attraction build. There is still a need for solid C and D level attractions in all Disney Parks, which Webslingers certainly fits that bill.

Yeah… But this is the SPIDERMAN I.P. we’re talking about. One of the biggest pop-culture characters of our age… Disney had ONE SHOT to make the most of it and create an incredible experience. And instead: Voila! Mediocre shooter!

Is it more fun than eating garbage? Sure. Is it what anyone would pick for DLR’s one and only Spider-Man attraction? I… don’t think so.

Decisions get made. And here we are. Certainly, theme parks need a mix of great and lesser attractions. But to relegate Spider-Man to the “lesser” category? I’d say it’s a baffling choice, but when you look at other (IMO) lousy decisions being made by Disney… Nothing surprises me anymore.
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Forgot to add: “…and in a park that already had a screen-based shooter ride.”

 

[Professortango1]

I'm sorry, but awful? That is a bit hyperbolic if you ask me. Is it the best attraction out there, no. But it works for what they wanted, and many happen to enjoy it, including myself. People have to accept that Disney isn't just going to build an E-Ticket for every single attraction build. There is still a need for solid C and D level attractions in all Disney Parks, which Webslingers certainly fits that bill.

The problem is it reuses the Midway Mania ride system and gameplay concept and is much worse than Midway Mania. To come out with a darkride based on one of the biggest action comic characters of all time and for it to be less fun and exciting than a ride that debuted 10 years earlier....that's a fail.

 

[Phroobar]

Yeah… But this is the SPIDERMAN I.P. we’re talking about. One of the biggest pop-culture characters of our age… Disney had ONE SHOT to make the most of it and create an incredible experience. And instead: Voila! Mediocre shooter!

Is it more fun than eating garbage? Sure. Is it what anyone would pick for DLR’s one and only Spider-Man attraction? I… don’t think so.

Decisions get made. And here we are. Certainly, theme parks need a mix of great and lesser attractions. But to relegate Spider-Man to the “lesser” category? I’d say it’s a baffling choice, but when you look at other (IMO) lousy decisions being made by Disney… Nothing surprises me anymore.
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Forgot to add: “…and in a park that already had a screen-based shooter ride.”

Some people here WANT us to love the Disney dog food.
Shrinking crowds mean they are tired of Disney meat by-products at four star prices.

 

[britain]

The problem is it reuses the Midway Mania ride system and gameplay concept and is much worse than Midway Mania. To come out with a darkride based on one of the biggest action comic characters of all time and for it to be less fun and exciting than a ride that debuted 10 years earlier....that's a fail.

Fact: Spider-Man is the world’s most popular superhero. And a huge chunk of his fans are kids who aren’t tall enough for a thrill ride. I’m not saying web-slingers was the answer, but it made sense for it to be something that little kids can do.

 

[Professortango1]

Fact: Spider-Man is the world’s most popular superhero. And a huge chunk of his fans are kids who aren’t tall enough for a thrill ride. I’m not saying web-slingers was the answer, but it made sense for it to be something that little kids can do.

A 40-inch height requirement means a kid can likely ride at 4 years old. 40 inches is what we ask for Indy and other thrilling attractions.

Plus, let's not forget that while many kids like Spider-Man, many teens and adults love him as well and spend money to visit the parks. Many little kids are happy to see Spider-Man and take a picture with him and see him swinging. If we had a full 48-inch height requirement coaster, that would still appeal to kids 8 and up and have an attraction that soaks up crowds of all ages.

Midway Mania is a ride that appeals to all ages and doesn't feel like a lackluster attraction. WEB Slingers feels like a giant missed opportunity and is a ride that doesn't make the top 5 experiences at DCA for most guests.

 

[el_super]

But to relegate Spider-Man to the “lesser” category?

Not at all lesser. It's a shame you see it that way.