At DL right now, just been profiled by security

[Curious Constance]

If you felt uncomfortable, you should call Guest Services and report the incident. If Disney is going to implement these screenings, the employees need to be trained to do it in a proper fashion that does not discriminate or make people feel uncomfortable.

Which is probably one of the reasons Disney is changing over to have it's own security employees soon rather than utilize a third party vendor. Third parties will never be trained to Disney's satisfaction, I would imagine.

 

[Phroobar]

This morning I went through security at the monorail station. These guys where the happiest security people I've ever come across. It was like having a couple of hyper jungle cruise skippers put you through the metal detector. It was early in the morning and they were in a good mood.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Yeah, the ones in the Grand Californian DCA entrance were nice all times I went through.

 

[Texas84]

I had four screenings at WDW in January and zero at DLR the next week. Why is WDW profiling me and DLR isn't?

 

[RandomPrincess]

My husband has never been catcalled walking past a construction site. I guess that means it never has happened to anyone.

 

[Phroobar]

Doesn't catcalling from a construction site only happens in cartoons?

 

[RandomPrincess]

Doesn't catcalling from a construction site only happens in cartoons?

Not sure if you are joking but no it does happen. I was first catcalled walking past a construction site in middle school most recently this fall as I walked my daughter to school.

 

[Phroobar]

Wow! That just seems like that would happen in another time.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I was first catcalled walking past a construction site in middle school most recently this fall as I walked my daughter to school.

Why are some men so disrespectful towards girls and women? Such pigs. Ugh.

 

[Dead2009]

My husband has never been catcalled walking past a construction site. I guess that means it never has happened to anyone.

It surely doesn't mean it happens every single time either.

 

[flynnibus]

In a few short years... it will be be a crime to smile at a woman if she doesn't smile at you first... Or at least some group on the internet will try to shame you

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Right, because a grown man smiling at a woman is the same thing as a grown man catcalling an underage high school girl.

 

[TP2000]

If Disney is going to implement these screenings, the employees need to be trained to do it in a proper fashion that does not discriminate or make people feel uncomfortable.

Prove how this was discrimination. .

The person who felt "harassed" (her word) was an overweight, middle-aged, white woman (her description, although 21st century euphemisms were used instead). She was upset because on two trips through the Esplanade she was selected for a short screening through the metal detector both times.

Seeing as how these types of public security screenings use pre-determined algorithms like "every fifth person for the next hour, then every seventh person for 30 minutes, then back to every fifth person for 30" it would seem this was not "discrimination" or "harassment", it was just annoyance at the algorithm.

Any private security company worth their insurance policy uses algorithms (some mathematical, some timer based) that are tracked and logged, in order to prevent lawsuits from the husband's of middle-aged white women who get annoyed when they are asked to go through the metal detector.

 

[TP2000]

It was all men congregated there at the end of the night. There were several comments made back and forth by a couple of the men (boys really). I would never complain about a regular screening but this was different. In addition, the laughing in my face at the inconvenience of it was terribly unprofessional and inconsiderate in front of my kids. The whole thing was off. I assure you I am not easily offended and I am not a member of the entitled generation. I hate that I cannot give a better picture as to how things went down but it was not normal.

So, this is information you didn't include in your first post. Although it's still so vague that I'm not sure how it could be considered harassment, since you don't explain what the "comments" were. Very vague stuff to go on here.

If you are not a member of the entitled generation, it's not really coming through in your posts here. You sound very entitled to me, and you are still upset that you were selected for additional screening twice. Obviously a middle-aged white woman is not usually Muslim and of the several Muslim terrorist attacks on innocents in the last few months, none of them have been carried out by white women, so I can understand why you would be annoyed.

And yet, Disney can't just single out the Middle Eastern looking people that come through the Esplanade. Which is why nearly every security firm from the TSA to theme park and stadium security uses blind algorithms to select who gets additional screening. You hit the algorithm twice. A shame you didn't also play the Powerball that day.

 

[Curious Constance]

Not sure if you are joking but no it does happen. I was first catcalled walking past a construction site in middle school most recently this fall as I walked my daughter to school.

I remember being on my paper route as a kid, and I mean, a KID,not even in 7th grade yet, me and my friend got cat called going past a construction site all the time. WHAT IS WRONG WITH CONSTRUCTION MEN!? lol Seriously.

 

[Andrew_Ryan]

Disney should do everything they can to provide a safe environment for their guests, including making these screenings as safe as possible.

 

[Andrew_Ryan]

Prove how this was discrimination. .

I can't do that, but if someone feels like they are being treated inappropriately by security, the situation should be investigated.

 

[RandomPrincess]

In a few short years... it will be be a crime to smile at a woman if she doesn't smile at you first... Or at least some group on the internet will try to shame you

I have never had a problem with a man smiling at me. A have never met anyone who has complained that a man smiled at them. I have even been flattered when a man had approached me nicely and asked me out or wanted to introduce themselves etc. I've even had a man do it in front of my kids in a store. There is a huge difference is tone, glances, body language etc. Yelling "Hey baby check out that ." at a complete stranger is not appropriate.

 

[flynnibus]

I have never had a problem with a man smiling at me. A have never met anyone who has complained that a man smiled at them. I have even been flattered when a man had approached me nicely and asked me out or wanted to introduce themselves etc. I've even had a man do it in front of my kids in a store. There is a huge difference is tone, glances, body language etc. Yelling "Hey baby check out that ***." at a complete stranger is not appropriate.

While you may not have a problem with it... the issue is people can define anything these days as making them uncomfortable and can define any type of behavior as an unwanted advance. Just look for the numerous 'we filmed this girl walking through the streets...' videos for just how far the needle has swung. Yes, even people coming up and trying to talk to a girl is being painted as harassment... because you know... people should have to make appointments or get approval before trying to interject if you meet someone in crossing in public.

 

[RandomPrincess]

While you may not have a problem with it... the issue is people can define anything these days as making them uncomfortable and can define any type of behavior as an unwanted advance. Just look for the numerous 'we filmed this girl walking through the streets...' videos for just how far the needle has swung. Yes, even people coming up and trying to talk to a girl is being painted as harassment... because you know... people should have to make appointments or get approval before trying to interject if you meet someone in crossing in public.

Gonna play devil's advocate here. It is a very scary thing to be a female sometimes. There are over 200,000 sexual assaults a year in the US. Statistically 1 out of 6 woman in the US will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.

Those women walking down the street in those videos are constantly being approached by men. Some may be just nice guys but when you are being approached, catcalled or followed day after day, sorry you don't know who is safe anymore and everyone starts to look like an jerk.

I am a fat, late 30s woman who wears jeans, pony tails, t-s and sneakers and lives in the suburbs. If I'm harassed occasionally just imagine what it is like for young ladies in the city.