Associated Press: Man accused of videotaping, molesting girl at Disney pool

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
hmmm, if it means that this child wasnt molested.... i think the parents would opt for a leash if they could do it over again (assuming that she ran off)

in today society, it almost forces you to have this kind of approach. this isnt mayberry anymore.


todays society is no different from the past most offences of this nature are perpetrated by family members. But hey why stop a good media feeding frenzy adding to parents paranoia. Remind me again what freedoms are we fighting to protect?

But don't let that stop a rush to judge the parents.
 

bgraham34

Well-Known Member
This is unreal. They should take this guy and should cut off his lil lil fellah and then chain him to a fence along the highway and allow people to throw trash at him all day long.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
This is unreal. They should take this guy and should cut off his lil lil fellah and then chain him to a fence along the highway and allow people to throw trash at him all day long.

sadly some smart bottomed lawyer would make a wedge for protecting this poor unfortunates civil liberties, something he seems to have deprived the kid of.
 

joel_maxwell

Permanent Resident of EPCOT
todays society is no different from the past most offences of this nature are perpetrated by family members. But hey why stop a good media feeding frenzy adding to parents paranoia. Remind me again what freedoms are we fighting to protect?

But don't let that stop a rush to judge the parents.
well, they are ultimately responsible for the well being of the child so they are going to take some heat on that side of the story, even if they did all the could to prevent it... the other side is the sicko's involvement (whatever that is)

This is unreal. They should take this guy and should cut off his lil lil fellah and then chain him to a fence along the highway and allow people to throw trash at him all day long.
i like this one. good thinking
 

joel_maxwell

Permanent Resident of EPCOT
sadly some smart bottomed lawyer would make a wedge for protecting this poor unfortunates civil liberties, something he seems to have deprived the kid of.
true. i think the lawyer should have to sit with his client as he is trashed on the highway like Mr. graham suggested. lol
 

BiggerTigger

Well-Known Member
The Associated Press

April 30, 2007, 5:10 PM EDT

According to the Orange County Sheriff's Office, guests at the hotel reported seeing Bishop take a young girl into the bushes of the pool area, touch her inappropriately and videotape it. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...0,2533220,print.story?coll=orl-home-headlines
If I were a guest and seen a man take a child into the bushes I would interven quickly. It could be as innocent as just finding a toy that blew away, but I think any family member would appreciate that it takes a community to raise a child and that a community is watching out for them. I commend them for notifying athorities, however it should have stopped before this man traumatized this child.
 

miles1

Active Member
true. i think the lawyer should have to sit with his client as he is trashed on the highway like Mr. graham suggested. lol

Unfortunately, he will probably be granted some poor public defender who's job it will be to defend this ....(hold on while I think of a vile enough name.)

As for the bystanders, I've heard in other accounts that they did in fact intervene and get the attention of security.

I'm not a violent person, but this is the best case for involuntary castration I've ever seen.
 

Laura

22
Premium Member
My thoughts too. Kids sometimes run around and fall out of site. As a dad of 3, my wife & I are outnumbered. Anyway, if this guy is found guilty, I can think of several punishments not suitable for any viewer.
My prayers for the family.

I don't know. My kids will run out of sight here at home sometimes, but at Walt Disney World where there's thousands of people everywhere you look, they are never away from my side.

I've been outnumbered too. One trip I went just me and them when they were 2 and 4, but that's not an excuse for losing sight of them. I had my hands on both of them every second (or one in the stroller while the other held my hand). If there's a pool in the vicinity, there's no excuse for not making sure your child is right by your side or in your line of sight at every second. My nearly 6 year old is a great swimmer, but even in my own backyard when he's swimming in the 2 foot deep pool I never take my eyes off him.

I really don't see how this could have happened (if the parents were being completely responsible).

If you were carrying around $1,000 cash, would you set it 10 feet away from you at a place like WDW? If it were 10 feet away from you, would you take your eyes off it for a split second? Aren't our children worth more than $1,000?

:shrug:
 

WDWFanatic

Active Member
I want him keel hauled under the mark twain and then put those stocks to good use in liberty square.

Actually if i had been the parent he would have ended up at gatorland.

was this dude a guest at the resort??
 

TarzanRocked99-

Well-Known Member
No he was a known ______ Offender from the South Florida area, he parked at Fantasia Gardens and walked across the street to the Dolphin Grotto Pool area. That is where the incident happend in the woods between the Swan and Dolphin a group of S&D lifegaurds are the ones that caught and cornered him and held him utill Orange County arrived.

Could have happened at any one of the Disney Resorts, as they do not check for room keys or ID to get into the Pool areas. Its sad that this is an issue in todays world.
 

KevGuy

Member
The kid's parents should be flogged for letting their child out of their site. I'm sorry but that is just how I feel, the way things are in today's society you can't take anything for granted and child safety on vacation even at Disney should be prime directive #1 ie: don't EVER let your kids out of your site even for a moment. :brick:
 

pax_65

Well-Known Member
I really don't see how this could have happened (if the parents were being completely responsible).

I agree. I hate to bash the parents at this difficult time - ultimately it's the scumbag's fault first and foremost. But at WDW my kids are never out of my sight unless they are with another adult from my family. And let's be honest... those of us who go to WDW often have seen kids wandering around unattended, misbehaving, or nearly drowning and we've wondered or even asked, "Where are your parents?"

Another point... make sure your kids are "aware". I watched a good Dateline show the other week where a reporter (with the parents permission) brought a puppy to a park to see how the children would react. He would try to lure the kids close to his car. Some of the kids were VERY smart - they stayed away, got a parent... others were completely clueless, walking away with him to his car and putting themselves at great risk. After watching the show I talked to my kids about it and they answered my questions correctly - they've been well-trained at school (and home) to be aware.

I don't know the exact particulars of this incident... did he lure the child away or just grab her? If the child was "grabbed", the parents should have seen it happen. If the child was lured away, the parents should have taught the child NEVER to go away with a stranger under any circumstances (and they should have seen it). So either way it's a lesson for all parents. And 6-years old is not too young to be somewhat aware. You don't have to scare the heck out of the kid, but some age-appropriate awareness of danger is unfortunately, a necessary thing these days.

As bad as this is (and it's terrible), the end result could have been much, much worse.

Jon
 

sknydave

Active Member
Go to any public place and you have tons of little kids running around unsupervised. Parents off somewhere in their own world. An accident or something like this happens and then it's "How could this have happened?!?"
 

JustPlainBill

Active Member
I just read the news story and something caught me this time. It says that there are eyewitnesses at the hotel pool that saw him take her behind the bushes and touch her. These people just watched that without trying to stop it? I'll be damned if I saw something like that and did nothing about it.

As far as the parents being around - who knows they could have been right around the corner. It says the girl was 6 or 8 years old so she could have just disappeared and had this happen very quickly. Unfortunately sick people like this guy don't need much time to ruin someone else's life.
Your point is well taken. One time I was in a public place with my youngest daughter (who was 4 years old at the time) she told me she had to go to the bathroom. My wife wasn't anywhere nearby, she was in another area with my other daughter, my only choice was to take her into the men's room or have an accident right there. I checked first to make sure the men's room was empty, and brought her in. No sooner had she started going, a police officer entered the men's room and went to the sink to wash his hands. I noticed he was watching me with my daughter through the mirror to see what was going on. I knew then that someone must have seen me go into the men's room with my daughter and thought the worst and alerted the officer. The officer watched us leave and smiled at us, and nodded, I'm assuming at that time he realized what was really going on, because he left right after us, never using the facilities other than the sink. I wasn't angry about what happened, having someone think I could have been a molester, I was actually happy that someone was out there that cared enough to get involved just in case I was.
 

CRO-Magnum

Active Member
If he's guilty...

Bishop denied such action, according to the police.

they should just take him out back and shoot him. We need a zero tolerance policy on pedaphiles. No three strikes and your out. No repeat offenders. No leniency of the court. Just get them out of society and out of the gene pool.

Of course that's just my opinion.
 

WhyteAL

Active Member
I've been thinking about this subject for a while...and I think this is completely disgusting, and that person should be taken somewhere and "taken care of". Another point was were the heck where the parents?????

The truth is this is most likely not that persons first time commiting such an act. And these people with those type of sexual perversions need to be constantly monitored and not allowed into certain environments such as Disney. There is a data base in Florida which points these people out (if they have a past history) and lets you know where they live. I quick reference check might have solved the situation. Mind you I am not saying it was Disney's fault, but maybe a program needs to be in place so that these events are much less frequent in our world.
 

WhyteAL

Active Member
they should just take him out back and shoot him. We need a zero tolerance policy on pedaphiles. No three strikes and your out. No repeat offenders. No leniency of the court. Just get them out of society and out of the gene pool.

Of course that's just my opinion.

I have daughters and even though I completely agree with your accertion, I know it's not that simple. These people usually tend to be people who in there lifetime experienced the same event and repeat the same behavior.
 

wdwmomof3

Well-Known Member
I just saw his picture on CNN.... he looks like an old grandpa. What are these men thinking doing this to a child, or anybody for that matter? People, watch your children everywhere you go. You never know where these creeps are.
 

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