Apple Pay to be available at Walt Disney World by end of the year

[Voxel]

I don't know, they seemed to be gushing far more then usual for Apple products. It's not like ABC got to make the announcement ahead of time.

Prolly paid nothing, because this announce had something (though small) to do with ABC parent company.

 

[danlb_2000]

Prolly paid nothing, because this announce had something (though small) to do with ABC parent company.

That's possible, but that's payment in my book, just not in cash.

 

[DisUniversal]

I was leaving my opinion and pulling out, but I am quite calm. I just fundamentally don't get the Cult of Jobs and why so many view their products as must haves (I think if they started selling cow pies with the Apple logo that fanbois would be lined up just like when Disney sells a Villains Tee and LE party pin).

But that's not the point here. What I am saying is that I don't see any reason why a method of payment would provoke interest whatsoever. Seriously, I think we are headed for the vision of humanity seen in WALL*E. It's such a hassle to reach into a pocket and take out cash or a card?!?! Do people who think like this even use toilet paper or is that too much of an effort?!

It's not a matter of effort as much as it is a safer, more secure way to pay for things. Yes, it's also easier....which makes it easier to spend money which definitely interests retailers. Magic Bands are in the exact same category for pretty much the same reasons. It's all part of progress...going by your way of "thinking", we'd still be using the old fashion credit card slider machines with the triple carbon charge slips, pay at the pump wouldn't exist, you wouldn't be able to swipe a debit card at the grocery store and ATM's probably wouldn't exist either.

 

[Mouse Trap]

Paying on your phone will be an ALTERNATIVE to cash, just as paying with a card is. We aren't seeing the downfall of anything here, just another alternative.

If you dont like it, dont use it. Credit cards and the good old dollar will be here for quite some time.

 

[RAXIP]

People said the same when credit cards came out - "what is the problem with cash?" Technology naysayers like yourself are now lumping credit cards into the same category as cash. It is called progress, and I'm all for it.

Your reply made me think of this line...
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[mm121]

Does this mean they have to replace all those mickey head card readers at checkouts that they just installed?

if so this is just plain stupid, and such a waste, to constantly replace hardware.

or did they know this was coming and incorporate NFC into the mickey heads from the start?

its crazy how apple is trying to take credit for the creation of NFC by calling it Apple Pay, when NFC has been available on other phones for awhile now, though the tech has been under utilized.

 

[Voxel]

Does this mean they have to replace all those mickey head card readers at checkouts that they just installed?

if so this is just plain stupid, and such a waste, to constantly replace hardware.

or did they know this was coming and incorporate NFC into the mickey heads from the start?

its crazy how apple is trying to take credit for the creation of NFC by calling it Apple Pay, when NFC has been available on other phones for awhile now, though the tech has been under utilized.

More likely Disney used NFC knowing Android and Apple would use it.
Also if you read the release, Apple isn't claiming creation of NFC pay-system. They are praising a new Secure purchasing through NFC which hasn't been done mainstream. Android sends a credit card via NFC, where as Apple Pay send a one time use token for a transaction.

 

[donsullivan]

Does this mean they have to replace all those mickey head card readers at checkouts that they just installed?

if so this is just plain stupid, and such a waste, to constantly replace hardware.

or did they know this was coming and incorporate NFC into the mickey heads from the start?

its crazy how apple is trying to take credit for the creation of NFC by calling it Apple Pay, when NFC has been available on other phones for awhile now, though the tech has been under utilized.

I don't see where Apple is trying to take credit for creation of NFC at all. ApplePay, is simply the name they have given to their implementation of an NFC based payment service.

 

[wdwmagic]

its crazy how apple is trying to take credit for the creation of NFC by calling it Apple Pay, when NFC has been available on other phones for awhile now, though the tech has been under utilized.

The point really is that other companies have thrown in NFC chips in phones to make it look good on a Spec sheet, but they did not do the difficult part - thrashing out the deals with banks and merchants to actually make it work in the real world. Apple on the other hand have done just that.

 

[wdwmagic]

I don't see where Apple is trying to take credit for creation of NFC at all. ApplePay, is simply the name they have given to their implementation of an NFC based payment service.

The service being the key part here. Anyone can buy an NFC chipset and put it in a phone.

 

[Tom Morrow]

People said the same when credit cards came out - "what is the problem with cash?"

Technology naysayers like yourself are now lumping credit cards into the same category as cash. It is called progress, and I'm all for it.

The only problem I have is, credit/debit cards are easier than cash, and now easier than ever since every single store is equipped, but paying with a device isn't really any easier than that. But I guess having another alternative way to pay is never bad.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The only problem I have is, credit/debit cards are easier than cash, and now easier than ever since every single store is equipped, but paying with a device isn't really any easier than that. But I guess having another alternative way to pay is never bad.

The reason this is big is because Apple has done more than offer an existing alternative. They worked to make it an available means at more places.

 

[donsullivan]

The service being the key part here. Anyone can buy an NFC chipset and put it in a phone.

The point really is that other companies have thrown in NFC chips in phones to make it look good on a Spec sheet, but they did not do the difficult part - thrashing out the deals with banks and merchants to actually make it work in the real world. Apple on the other hand have done just that.

Exactly. There have been lots of phone with NFC chips in them over the last couple of years that have added no real value to the buyer. You could find anecdotal cases where you could use them but they have tended to be tech demo cases, not truly valuable for the vast user community.

A lot of companies have talked about mobile payment services but so far, nobody has done all the hard work and made the hard decisions needed to make it a reality. When you walk through the details of the way they've implemented this, it seems they've looked at many of the credit card data theft events over the last few years to develop a solution that 'could' potentially end that problem for good. The devil is obviously in the details but so far they seem to have done the right things to keep our data secure for payments. If that proves true, their actions will jump start a space that has had nothing more than potential into a viable opportunity to improve the security of mobile payments.

 

[donsullivan]

The only problem I have is, credit/debit cards are easier than cash, and now easier than ever since every single store is equipped, but paying with a device isn't really any easier than that. But I guess having another alternative way to pay is never bad.

One of the key things this has the potential to fix is things like the Target credit card number theft last holiday, or the Home Depot one announced yesterday. If this works they way they describe you would no longer have those problems since the merchants would never have your credit card data. All they see is a one-time payment ID that only works for the transaction you authorized and then expires so it's useless. That alone has the potential to be a game changer for security of our payment data.

 

[TimothyG]

Does this mean they have to replace all those mickey head card readers at checkouts that they just installed?

No, the card readers don't need to be replaced. Simply put, NFC is a technology build on top of RFID. The chips inside the MagicBand (MIFARE DESFire EV1 chip) are actually NFC chips and the "Mickey" readers are standard NFC readers. That's a big part of the reason why the technology will pretty work right away without needing to swap out the hardware.

 

[mm121]

do they still make mikey money?

As they said during the presentation the Apple Watch will unlock room doors at Starwood properties next Spring..... so a next step is the AppleWatch may also work doors at Disney.

sarcasm i'm guessing?

And very bad timing on behalf of Uni to announce ANYTHING on Apple's day. Great way to be drowned out in the chatter.

what did uni announce?

I'm wondering how much Apple paid ABC to get the coverage they are getting from them.

nothing since disney is the parent of abc

 

[lazyboy97o]

what did uni announce?

New resort for 2016.

 

[mm121]

One of the key things this has the potential to fix is things like the Target credit card number theft last holiday, or the Home Depot one announced yesterday. If this works they way they describe you would no longer have those problems since the merchants would never have your credit card data. All they see is a one-time payment ID that only works for the transaction you authorized and then expires so it's useless. That alone has the potential to be a game changer for security of our payment data.

do business have to be specifically set up to work with apple pay or will the current readers/backend work if they are setup for NFC payments.

 

[Voxel]

do business have to be specifically set up to work with apple pay or will the current readers/backend work if they are setup for NFC payments.

Software updates to NFC readers and POS system most likely

 

[donsullivan]

do business have to be specifically set up to work with apple pay or will the current readers/backend work if they are setup for NFC payments.

I'm trying to get the fine details on that part now but from what I've read so far the businesses that support it will need to update their payment software to handle the one-time payment authorization number they'd get from the phone or watch vs the credit card number data they used to get. I imagine it's been well documented by Apple for merchants that want to support it but they haven't released those details widely yet. If the merchants already have the necessary hardware deployed it should just be a software update (and training) exercise to deploy it.