Cesar R M
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so they can pretty much let the pilot area fall in disrepair completely with no complains ?
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Appalling state of the monorail cabins
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s8film40
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Well I don't think they need to automate them to do that. They seem to have already done a good job of letting the cabs fall into disrepair.so they can pretty much let the pilot area fall in disrepair completely with no complains ?
note2001
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What surprises me is that pic with the missing bench. Hopefully they got that fixed that asap as it could pose a hazard to the pilot if they stumble into it.
Figment2005
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That is where the new computer is going. I'm not sure who it was that took the pictures, but that is serious if Disney finds out.
Cesar R M
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What if the engineers who are installed them are taking them (as in "this is where we will install the new boxes" type proof. )
articos
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I can't give specifics, as it's not publicly available information. I'm sorry. I can definitely say that there is no dispute over the size of the order of any future rolling stock, if the company were to put in that order. I will also say there are some comments in this thread that are very astute.
I haven't followed this thread, but the non working monorail has long been a thorn in my side. I used to stay only at the monorail resorts, so I noticed when problems started to arise, back in 2009 -- and the issues with the monorail have never been properly addressed.
Disney can easily replace the monorails, they are way too old and they need to go. Orlando International Airport has allocated $90 million dollars to replace eight, three car monorails. The current monorails are over thirty-three years old. The new cars only cost $65 million.
Per the Orlando Sentinel: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...lando-international-airport-airsides-shuttles
"Each of the eight, three-car driverless trains covers some 80,000 miles a year, making the 90-second trips 20 hours a day, every day of the week. Thousands of times daily, they make a 2,000-foot one-way trek to the airsides, carrying as many as 240 passengers apiece at a time.
Now, after 33 years, the shuttles that have connected the terminal to airsides 1 and 3 to the east are going to be retired. They were running at the airport on opening day in 1981 and have hardly stopped since, though they were refurbished in 1990.
Orlando International earlier this month placed a $65.6 million order with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries America to replace the four with new, sleeker models. They will take 18 months to manufacture, plus months of installation and tinkering in Orlando."
And, this is a rendering of the new $400 million Orlando Airport to I-Drive monorail. http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/...car-designer-for-orlando.html?s=image_gallery
Everyone else is investing in brand new monorails and Disney needs to follow suit -- there is no other way around it.
Disney can easily replace the monorails, they are way too old and they need to go. Orlando International Airport has allocated $90 million dollars to replace eight, three car monorails. The current monorails are over thirty-three years old. The new cars only cost $65 million.
Per the Orlando Sentinel: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...lando-international-airport-airsides-shuttles
"Each of the eight, three-car driverless trains covers some 80,000 miles a year, making the 90-second trips 20 hours a day, every day of the week. Thousands of times daily, they make a 2,000-foot one-way trek to the airsides, carrying as many as 240 passengers apiece at a time.
Now, after 33 years, the shuttles that have connected the terminal to airsides 1 and 3 to the east are going to be retired. They were running at the airport on opening day in 1981 and have hardly stopped since, though they were refurbished in 1990.
Orlando International earlier this month placed a $65.6 million order with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries America to replace the four with new, sleeker models. They will take 18 months to manufacture, plus months of installation and tinkering in Orlando."
And, this is a rendering of the new $400 million Orlando Airport to I-Drive monorail. http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/...car-designer-for-orlando.html?s=image_gallery
Everyone else is investing in brand new monorails and Disney needs to follow suit -- there is no other way around it.
Figment2005
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It's not, those holes have been there since early 2014.
Cesar R M
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Figment2005
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Are you serious?years with holes...
I wonder what excuse the apologists will say.
peachykeen
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Just now on Monorial Blue.
Seems like such an easy thing to clean up. In fact, I did.
And I haven't driven a monorail in years. I'm just a guest now.
Edit to add: I'm fully aware this mess is caused by a Guest, but it's a shame that there isn't more regular cleaning throughout the day. I mentioned elsewhere in this thread I believe about how I pitched a daily cleaning schedule to managers when I was in rails and was shot down.
Seems like such an easy thing to clean up. In fact, I did.
And I haven't driven a monorail in years. I'm just a guest now.
Edit to add: I'm fully aware this mess is caused by a Guest, but it's a shame that there isn't more regular cleaning throughout the day. I mentioned elsewhere in this thread I believe about how I pitched a daily cleaning schedule to managers when I was in rails and was shot down.
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lazyboy97o
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But, but, it has new carpet with a retro logo...
articos
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Those managers should be retrained. They should consider any reasonable suggestion from their cast, and I also remember when both custodial and transportation cm's would regularly go in and sweep the cars. Bravo. My question is how many current transportation cast walked past those and didn't reach in and try to take care of it.
note2001
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I realize the popcorn might have been in a position that's hard to see from the CMs on the platforms, but I worked at walmart part time a number of years back and even though I was in a seperate division than the store, a manager would have been all over me if I had walked by spilled popcorn on the ground and not picked it up or at least blocked it off and called for maintenance. It's a slipping hazard. They also broadcast messages to remind employees to run clean sweeps of their departments. Wow. I can't wrap my head around the fact that I just said Walmart has a better cleanup policy than Disney.
I think I'd pull a Mike Rowe if I saw these folk leave their plastic jugs of water behind and run up to them with a "Hi there! I believe you well-hydrated environmentally conscious folk accidentally left your portable h2o containers behind. I'm sure you meant to recycle." (and then I'd be laughed at )Uh huh. Disney, the floor is open to you now. Do you have a reply to any of the above? <<cricket chirps>>
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Cesar R M
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I was agreeing with you. not targeting you with my image macro. I haven't seen you behave like an "apologist".
peachykeen
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When I walked by most were, as we used to say when I worked there, "making sure the railings didn't fall over." Otherwise known as leaning on them.
Another phrase we used to say sometimes was "if there's time to lean, there's time to clean." That one doesn't seem to be as popular anymore
Bombardier (or really any train manufacturer) could easily build trains to 600vdc off of a 750vdc design, the track power really isn't that important. AC Motors are gaining popularity in the rail market now too, so the track voltage matters even less.
I was surprised to read that Bombardier would turn down an order. The only reason to turn down an order would be if there wasn't manufacturing capacity available, and that problem is solved by pricing (supply-demand). With the trains for Rihadh finishing up now, I can't believe that there would be so much work at the Kingston UTDC plant that they couldn't take on any more. The other issue might be if there was a local manufacturing requirement to get in the way (like Buy America) but that's not an issue for a private purchaser like Disney.
articos
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True on all counts. They would not turn down an order and have not.
articos
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That "inspecting the railing" seems to be the norm more than the exception, and it's just a culture that is being let slide. It needs to change.When I walked by most were, as we used to say when I worked there, "making sure the railings didn't fall over." Otherwise known as leaning on them.
Another phrase we used to say sometimes was "if there's time to lean, there's time to clean." That one doesn't seem to be as popular anymore