Appalling state of the monorail cabins

[ford91exploder]

I'm sorry that my opinion of what I witnessed across the parks upset you.

He's a good guy - just has not taken the red pill yet.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

He's a good guy - just has not taken the red pill yet.

Come on. 80%?

 

[Cesar R M]

Come on. 80%?

will 78.9% suit you? just joking lol

 

[ford91exploder]

Come on. 80%?

OK

 

[Bing Bong]

Look people when I said 80% I mean't 80%. Almost every single attraction I went to at WDW this past winter had issues with maintenance and upkeep; paint tearing off; long term ceiling water damage; AA's not working ( embarrassingly bad on JII); numerous effects turned off; popcorn lighting dangling down from walls at It's a small world(as well as a large amount of figures not moving, and boats backing up through the South Seas scene); large amounts of trash in the Soarin queue (quite a few areas of Epcot could have used some cleaning); complete scenes missing AA's all together (UoE); The projectors on Philharmagic are out of sync (and allegedly been that way for a few years now); highly visible building damage around tomorrowland from the peoplemover; Pirates (enough said there); Fountain of Nations is hard to watch now due to over half of the fountains are not functional; Huge amounts of dust (Living with the Land); all in all a 80% of disrepair, lack of cleanliness, lack of upkeep; lack of care, and a full load of embarrassment. But again that's just my opinion.

 

[dstrawn9889]

The only flaw in your theory is the monorail shop is the same PHYSICAL size as it was when they were maintained to exacting standards, But they are much more thinly staffed to make the park more profitable in the short term.

If WDW had 3 full shifts working on the monorails they would be back to their pre-Iger standards, You are correct the resources no longer exist to do this. Imagine if the monorails got a full cleaning every day inside and out.

even if they just placed an airport de-icer style hoop on the shop beam to pressure wash them as they load onto the beam in the mornings would help the image of these beautiful machines. or take it a step further, a small enclosure on the shop beam as a pull-through with catwalk, so custodial can load 1-2 employees per car at MK station and let them clean while they pull out of service, pass through the monorial wash, then disembark custodial to cycle to the next in line(which should be the third -- two such crews, each does either the even/odd in line) that way custodial <NON-TRANSPO Crew> can mark what needs to be repaired on the interior, and have another managerial stack check and balance transpo-monorail's stack.

 

[Rutt]

I think the issue is the expectation from past precedence is that things will only be better for a short time. I think the refurb they are doing on the cars is great! Refurbishments and Maintenance/upkeep are two very different things. While WDW is doing a good job with refurbishments, they haven't seemed to figure out upkeep yet. Obviously I think we all hope that will change but there's no reason to blindly believe it has or will at this point.

I don't see anybody saying 'they're refurbishing the trains! TDO is finally doing everything right!


Unfortunately we live in a world where everyone does only what they have to do to get by, where every last penny matters because money rules all and is the ONLY thing that matters anymore. It not specific to Disney.

There's nothing wrong with appreciating the things they do that are improvements. I don't see why people feel the need to put down anyone who actually enjoys the things done right as if it's a crime.

 

[Rutt]

Look people when I said 80% I mean't 80%. Almost every single attraction I went to at WDW this past winter had issues with maintenance and upkeep; paint tearing off; long term ceiling water damage; AA's not working ( embarrassingly bad on JII); numerous effects turned off; popcorn lighting dangling down from walls at It's a small world(as well as a large amount of figures not moving, and boats backing up through the South Seas scene); large amounts of trash in the Soarin queue (quite a few areas of Epcot could have used some cleaning); complete scenes missing AA's all together (UoE); The projectors on Philharmagic are out of sync (and allegedly been that way for a few years now); highly visible building damage around tomorrowland from the peoplemover; Pirates (enough said there); Fountain of Nations is hard to watch now due to over half of the fountains are not functional; Huge amounts of dust (Living with the Land); all in all a 80% of disrepair, lack of cleanliness, lack of upkeep; lack of care, and a full load of embarrassment. But again that's just my opinion.

So 80% of everything you saw at wdw was either in disrepair or lacking in upkeep? Really? You're standing by that 80%?

Do they not teach math anymore?

 

[Bing Bong]

So 80% of everything you saw at wdw was either in disrepair or lacking in upkeep? Really? You're standing by that 80%?

Do they not teach math anymore?

I am, and like I said it's my opinion no need to get so upset.

 

[Rutt]

Why would you celebrate something that SHOULD have been keep on proper order?

its like... you get a falling apart room, after paying an insane amount of money.. Then you suddenly claim "at least its getting better" after you get a note from the manager saying that the room MIGHT get fixed when you LEAVE.

Because in this case the room WAS fixed. We're happy because they DID fix some of the rooms and it appears many more will be fixed.

If all you do is whine and complain it's never enough, then eventually people stop trying because well, it's never enough.
Neither you not I nor Disney can change what happened in the past, so if you can't ever get beyond that it's gonna be a long miserable life.

 

[Rutt]

I am, and like I said it's my opinion no need to get so upset.

Not upset at all, quite the opposite actually. I don't think I've ever laughed as much at an opinion. It's quite a silly statement to make, at least 80% nonsense. Of course that's just my opinion.

 

[Nick Wilde]

The funniest thing is that most of you keep going back to the parks, even though I hear so much complaining on here. I really don't understand it. If you don't like the parks, why keep going?

 

[Bing Bong]

Not upset at all, quite the opposite actually. I don't think I've ever laughed as much at an opinion. It's quite a silly statement to make, at least 80% nonsense. Of course that's just my opinion.

I'm sorry that my opinion unsettled you. Some of us have been visiting WDW for longer than the last 10 years and have higher expectations, especially when DLR is meeting those expectations right now without question.

 

[Bing Bong]

The funniest thing is that most of you keep going back to the parks, even though I hear so much complaining on here. I really don't understand it. If you don't like the parks, why keep going?

Like I said it was my first time back in 5 years (we used to go twice a year). I went back to show my fiance my old stomping grounds for the first time... I'm just glad I took him to DLR first.

 

[Rutt]

I'm sorry that my opinion unsettled you. Some of us have been visiting WDW for longer than the last 10 years and have higher expectations, especially when DLR is meeting those expectations right now without question.

Yes, the world was an entirely different place 20 years ago (ten years ago the trend had already started) an people actually somewhat gave a damn about things, not so much anymore. It doesn't change the fact that the 80% number is a hilarious overexageration. Regardless, moving on lest you think that my laughter is another sign of unhappiness.

 

[Bing Bong]

Yes, the world was an entirely different place 20 years ago (ten years ago the trend had already started) an people actually somewhat gave a damn about things, not so much anymore. It doesn't change the fact that the 80% number is a hilarious overexageration. Regardless, moving on lest you think that my laughter is another sign of unhappiness.

It's just nice to know some people can live in worlds of fantasy outside of the parks. Just sayin.

 

[Rutt]

It's just nice to know some people can live in worlds of fantasy outside of the parks. Just sayin.

Only 80% fantasy.

Have a good night!

 

[CDavid]

The funniest thing is that most of you keep going back to the parks, even though I hear so much complaining on here. I really don't understand it. If you don't like the parks, why keep going?

As has been noted on these boards many times, it is completely possible to (greatly) enjoy Walt Disney World and even hold it in generally high regard while still being critical of its many faults, lack of adherence to standards, and generally inferior experience to what we once enjoyed.

 

[gmajew]

During my visit a few weeks ago I never saw anything like this on the trains.

I had one car that was dirty and needed the black marks scrubbed off from people's hands and grime but never saw anything like this and I was looking.

Air worked in every car I was on over the 8 day trip. Never had the train in question though.

 

[CDavid]

Missed a word.

What you did there was take someone who has a different opinion on the product than you, said that they are wrong ("defend every little mistake and poor decision by Disney") and thus their opinion has no basis in reality, yet the hyper-criticism is obviously correct because their opinions are backed up by "facts", no matter how much truth or personal opinion there is to those "facts".

It's a fallacy to think that Disney can do no wrong.

It's also a fallacy to think that Disney can do no right.

Exactly what 'word did I miss? It's really not appropriate to change someone's quote to say something they didn't say.

Please do quote where I - or anyone else - actually said that Disney can do no right. This may take awhile to find, because I've never said that.

The Walt Disney Company gets many things right, and I commend them for that. But there are far, far too many problems anymore - and notably, many are completely of Disney's own making. When posters argue that run-down monorails are no big deal and just something that was "not optimum", there is indeed a questionable basis in reality. There really is a problem, and it is documented in photographs (demonstrating nobody is making this stuff up just to be critical). Do you seriously want to argue our "facts" about conditions on the monorail?