s8film40
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This maintenance is actually for the upcoming automation.
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Appalling state of the monorail cabins
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ExtinctJenn
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Sure that makes sense... I get that... but I'd be willing to bet that while they have the trains back there they'll fix up some of this. I can't imagine they wouldn't. I guess we'll see! My fingers are crossed!
s8film40
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Let's hope! I've been imagining things like that for many years now I guess I'm just running low on imagination when Disney is involved.
ExtinctJenn
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I changed my post a little but you quoted it before I did. LOL!
But yeah... I mean I have to believe that if they are pulling them out of service anyway, they'll do more than just add the tech for the automation. Although, sadly, I guess I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't. They're working on a tight time table I'm sure and they may only have enough time to do what they've gotta do and wait for another day to fix things up.I will say this... while there 3 weeks ago I paid close attention and didn't see anything like these pictures that were posted but I did notice some chipped paint around the door spindles and a couple cushions that had tiny tears. I'm sure some trains/cabins are worse than others though.
ABQ
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Made the same inspection myself 2 weeks back, saw scuff marks, had a little musty aroma, a couple loose panels that rattled as the train moved. Not the huge damage, but enough to notice that if all these things were present in my one car, the rest of the trains could be just the same and that's bad enough. My favorite moment was stuck at the Contemporary stop with the "Uhhh...we have to reboot our monorail before we can get moving, it'll be just a few minutes and the power will go out." Made me wonder if it's a Windows based monorail OS. Hope not.I changed my post a little but you quoted it before I did. LOL!
I will say this... while there 3 weeks ago I paid close attention and didn't see anything like these pictures that were posted but I did notice some chipped paint around the door spindles and a couple cushions that had tiny tears. I'm sure some trains/cabins are worse than others though.
Like you, I have to assume there will be some effort to do a deep cleaning if the train is taken offline during the automation upgrades. Would be very stupid to not kill a couple birds with that one stone made available.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
shouldn't they fix both issues in one swift bang by doing the needed maintenance and then adding the automation?
Mouse_Trap
Well-Known Member
They could always try chopping them up and selling them as 'limited edition' pins.
This isn't exactly about the condition of the cabins, but how are the drivelines of the monorails holding up? I assume that they're still maintained well.
One thing that surprised me was how quickly monorail pilots zip out of the stations. I remember riding Teal and going quite fast, yet the monorail wasn't even out of the station completely. I would think that gradually building up speed instead of instantly flooring it (is that an appropriate term for this? lol) saves on wear and tear on the drivelines.
From a distance the monorails are still gorgeous, but upclose...that's a completely different story. It's sickening how Disney is treating one of the most iconic monorail fleets known to man.
Thanks for any information.
One thing that surprised me was how quickly monorail pilots zip out of the stations. I remember riding Teal and going quite fast, yet the monorail wasn't even out of the station completely. I would think that gradually building up speed instead of instantly flooring it (is that an appropriate term for this? lol) saves on wear and tear on the drivelines.
From a distance the monorails are still gorgeous, but upclose...that's a completely different story. It's sickening how Disney is treating one of the most iconic monorail fleets known to man.
Thanks for any information.
dstrawn9889
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as for pulling them off to service while in the middle of the day, i would not expect it, since it is a chore to put them up just to pull them back out three hours later... i see them parking the monorails at the stationswhile work is done, just to save time to rollthem back and then back out. i seem to remember that it takes lke 30 minutes a line to pull them back at night... 1.5 hours in 1.5 hours back out then what 4 out of service in-between? that is three hours that the crews cannot work on the beams...
peachykeen
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When you are trained to drive, you are basically told to "P5 it," P5 being the highest power setting, to get the train moving.
Those trains can take some abuse. Some pilots (myself included) try to learn all the little "tricks" to get your lap times down. There are ways to "trick" the computer to get a few extra mph out of the trains, which is always fun.
jackson1954
Member
Each train needs to be taken out of service for 2-3 months and given a complete interior refurbishment... But they won't.
dopeylover
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I unfortunately don't have time to read thru all 26 pages, but if no one has said it yet...Have you considered posting these pics on the Disney World FB page and/or posting them on Twitter to bring it to their attention? Obviously I'm aware they know about it and are doing nothing, but in my experience posting things on public pages where everyone can see either gets something done, or brings it to the attention of others to the point that they have to address it in some way. Just a thought.
Voxel
President of Progress City
This has been suggested by me and others to start a campaign to raise awareness. The interest was not as great as I had hoped.
RunnerEd
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....and make them extremely cool like Disneyland's trains.
MOXOMUMD
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Of course they won't. That's too much like work.
COProgressFan
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I think that's a great idea, but I'm not exactly how it would work? I think there are some folks who would help but I know I, for one, don't know where to start.
rudyjr13
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Write in campaign using an email template to the guy in charge of Transportation or Change.org are my suggestions. Both take 2 minutes for people to do. I asked for the email of the guy in charge of Transportation a few weeks ago but didn't get any responses. I work in advertising so I'm not keen on starting these but I will participate. I'll be down there 2/6 and will take pictures of any issues I see.
freediverdude
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Right now I think it works ok with the flip out ramps? I think? or the portable ramps, whichever it is, for the accessible car of each train. I don't really see a need to try to make it so all the floors are exactly level like that. It would be nice, yes, but way much money and effort for something not that important.
s8film40
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The platform height isn't the real issue in making it necessary to use ramps for accessibility. The trains were designed so that the cabin floor would be a few inches above the platform height. Bombardier actually wanted them to be level but the Mark VI imagineering designer George McGinnis insited on keeping the flush look to the trains. This required the door to drop down and swing out when opening instead of sliding like they do on the Las Vegas version. In other words to make the train floor level with the platform would not only require the platforms be raised but the trains would have to have a completely redesigned door system put in.
tissandtully
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I rode in Monorail Coral twice yesterday and it is really bad. The second time on the way back to Epcot from MK there was an AC leaking onto one of the seats, enough that a passenger warned us not to sit down there as the seat was wet. Also general upkeep on paint and panels is just awful. Any update on monorail refurbs?